Danny, whats the best Classic:

My friend likes:
5 docs (Me 2)
Genesis Of The Daleks (Loved first part)
Ghost Light (intrigued)
2 Docs (I've heard mixed opinions)

Ewww, Ghost Light. Icky.

Bear in mind that the old series has 26 years of "context." The new series has demonstrated what it represents in only three so far.

Some of my favorites are:

Genesis of the Daleks
The Tomb of the Cybermen
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
Pyramids of Mars

Don't formulate your opinions based on what others tell you. Track down some DVDs and watch them for yourself.

Your opinion is invalidated right there if you didn't understand Ghost Light. Now that requires some sophistication.

I 'm not sure I like the way you keep referring to "sophistication," as though there is some sort of class war amongst Doctor Who viewers. Almost arrogant, in fact. Probably sitting there sipping your champagne snorting "Look at me, I'm so high class enjoying old Who more than I do New Who. Pish to these fools of the LCD no appreciating a mere tacky TV show."

When I want sophisticated TV I watch some detective shows, Columbo perhaps. Or maybe Jeeves and Wooster, I own the whole set. Maybe I'll join the LCD and enjoy some 80s and 90s comedy, shoot me.

I understood the storyline, albeit after watching it twice, I just didn't think some of the acting and writing was up to scratch. It was overly bloated, imo. Nothing to do with whether or not I deep fry my tracksuit.

Danny, serious question, do you think that the "unsophisticated" Who viewers of whom you speak all look like this? http://www.yusef.co.uk/chav.JPG

DEMS MY BOYZ.

Now I'm paranoid that you have some kind of camera or something in my home that you're using to watch me.

Looks do not matter -- it's the mindset that matters. However I wouldn't think it unreasonable that the mindsets would be similar between the new Who fanatics and that bunch there.

I have enough of your antics to blackmail you with.

Oh I'm a chav now am I?

Oh dear.

I never understood the word "chav."

Yes. I've plenty of goss on you. Namely sipping champagne and looking down your nose at the riff raff "Who" viewers :P


You're not the only one. I used to think it was pronounced "Sharv."

All chavs should be placed on a island, thrown into a pit, told to fight to the death, then torture the winner.

Yes, there was someone else who had that mindset. His name was Hitler.

And Hitler was a bad man. But chavs are the most annoying people ever!

I think Gangsta Rappers would count as Chavs.

As evidenced by the average intelligence of them when they appear on this board.

No, don't torture the winner, deport him to the States, where the "real" gangsters live, as a 'prize'. If they tried what they do in Britain in, say, Los Angeles, he'd get gunned down in 5 minutes.

GODWINS LAW.

Stupid people in general are the most annoying people ever.

Quoted for truth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

http://doctorwho.time-and-space.co.u...lbum=2&pos=282
(From a fantastic screencap site)

I have been directed to that article before. I still don't get it. :P

Danny, I would not recommend you try to get it, the day we understand Chavs is the day hell freezes over and Satan decides to throw a world party.

Chavs are a lot like Gangsta Rappers, so I've gathered.

Then I do not wish to associate with either of them.

Yes, they are like gangsta rappers, except, white. There are a load of them near me, they call themselves "Junction Crew" and they hang out and annoy people. They did actually spend a lot of money on a local recording studio to make their own "crew song." I laughed my cock off, it was so pathetic, one of the verses went like this:

"We go to *Cineworld, KFC, **Maccy D's too
Spitting on the pavement
CHORUS: JUNCTION CREW!"

*Local cinema
** Chav for "McDonalds."

This verse comes from the fact that all mentioned shops are popular chav hangout places in the Junction.

Is the Golden arches considered a chav term for MacDonalds too?

We have a load of chavs near us who are all old enough to drive scooters :(

They fiddle with the exhaust pipe so that it makes a reeeeeally loud noise. And drive round the culdesac again and again and again and again (sounds fun).

Then they start shouting at night time. I'd tell them to shut up but they'd "shank me"

Oh and they throw snowballs at me when we're rowing!

Tossers. :P

No, the "Golden Arches" is the design of the "M" logo for MacDonalds.

Except without money or guns or record contracts.

Yeh, it isn't hard to establish that. Some people call MD the golden arches! I wasn't asking for the reason, i was aking if it was a the chav way of saying it!

I've never heard it, but it might be down where you are. All I can say is that it isn't up here in the north east of England.

And It's not a term I have heard here in Shropshire or down in Yate. But both are filled with Chavs and it's not just McDonalds, it's also those fast food outlets ran by the Indian people. The local one here in Uni got attacked twice by Chavs in one week.

*Insert Devvo Reference Here*

Devvo is shit.

There's a reference for you.

Devvo is hilarious and you're homosexual.