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Ben Dawson April 14, 2008 1:50 PM

He's had a yo-yo, and other alien things, like a (let me see if I remember this) a Eupheric Beam Locator.

Jamie Minty April 14, 2008 1:54 PM

He ate them all ... greedy pig.

Danny Stewart April 14, 2008 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Minty (Post 46297)
He can't. The Master stole them!

I feel silly for actually taking the time to respond to all the flaws in that comment, but I'll do it anyway.

1) So there's only one bag of jelly babies in the entire universe now, and the Master stole and ate the last of them?

2) What possible indication is there in Last of the Time Lords that the bag of jelly babies the Master was eating from was even the Doctor's to begin with?

Let's make this a collaborative thing, people -- pick apart that comment even more if you can.

Ross Hendrie April 14, 2008 4:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 46300)
He could have easily taken them back at the end of LoTL.

That's called looting, y'know.

Danny Stewart April 14, 2008 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 46318)
That's called looting, y'know.

I prefer to call it "reparations."

Mister_Wilbur April 14, 2008 6:31 PM

Excellent, very excellent. I dare say one of the best episodes so far for the new series. And I am hoping the next episode will be quite good as well.

Chris Britton April 15, 2008 6:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister_Wilbur (Post 46327)
Excellent, very excellent. I dare say one of the best episodes so far for the new series. And I am hoping the next episode will be quite good as well.

This weekends looks like it's going to be a good one. I just wonder what reason the Ood have are getting scary and aggressive this time is. I wonder if before they were slaves they were a violent or evil sort of race. Similar to Vulcans before they embraced logic for example.

Ronnie Rowlands April 15, 2008 7:25 AM

Do any Brits know when FOP is repeated? I missed it and the last repeat, d'oh!

Ben Dawson April 15, 2008 10:29 AM

Two words mate, "BBC iPlayer".

Chris Britton April 15, 2008 11:37 AM

Usually BBC 3 tend to do repeats as well, i can't remember exactly when though.

Ben Dawson April 15, 2008 12:15 PM

Sundays and Fridays. Normally about 8ish if I remember correctly.

Superkid11 April 15, 2008 12:24 PM

Or you could just download it.

Josef Kenny April 15, 2008 12:53 PM

Sorry about the thread derailment, but-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superkid on his sig
Ken uses Musuo Tensei as Bobobo does something WTFish.

The Universe explodes.

Or worse. They fuse. Into KenBoBo. The thing that eats LHWs, drinks Power Cosmic and craps out Ultimate Force while listening to LORDI. SIMULTANEOUSLY.

1. Is that Ken from Street Fighter?

2. Who or what is Musuo Tensei?

3. Who's Bobobo?

4. What's an LHW?

5. What's Power Cosmic?

6. What's Ultimate Force?

7. How does this all tie together to be funny?

Sorry, I don't understand.

Danny Stewart April 15, 2008 1:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat Souffle (Post 46344)
7. How does this all tie together to be funny?

Without understanding any more than you, I found it funny simply due to its sheer randomness.

Superkid11 April 15, 2008 1:14 PM

Ken is Kenshiro, a protagonist from a manga called Fist of the North Star.(which pretty much layed the foundation for things like DBZ)
Bobobo is the protagonist of another manga which is a warped parody of Fist of the North Star. It is severely random and WTFish, while Fist is usually serious.

Dunno what that other stuff is. :P

Jez April 15, 2008 1:22 PM

Isn't Ultimate Force that Ross Kemp drama with him playing a hard, skinhead SAS leader? :P

Jamie Minty April 15, 2008 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 46317)
I feel silly for actually taking the time to respond to all the flaws in that comment, but I'll do it anyway.

1) So there's only one bag of jelly babies in the entire universe now, and the Master stole and ate the last of them?

2) What possible indication is there in Last of the Time Lords that the bag of jelly babies the Master was eating from was even the Doctor's to begin with?

Let's make this a collaborative thing, people -- pick apart that comment even more if you can.

1) No but maybe if there have been no un-seen adventures in between the episode then hes been to busy saving the world from fat and stuff.

2) NO comment

It was just a silly post. Let it collect dust and be forgotten.

Have you ever seen Little Britain?

Ross Hendrie April 15, 2008 2:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jez (Post 46348)
Isn't Ultimate Force that Ross Kemp drama with him playing a hard, skinhead SAS leader? :P

Yes, and dont diss, it's a fantastic show.

Josef Kenny April 15, 2008 2:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie
Have you ever seen Little Britain?

Yeah, and it was almost funny the first time.

Josef Kenny April 15, 2008 2:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Britton
Those last three sentences make me wonder how good that show was.

Well, I'm sure it wasn't good in a canocial sense, but it was certainly good as pure entertainment :P

Chris Britton April 15, 2008 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat Souffle (Post 46358)
Yeah, and it was almost funny the first time.

I assume you are being kind there, Little Britain was never funny. I wonder why Tom Baker decided to narrate that show. I liked him better as The Doctor and in that hilarious episode of Blackadder II he was in.

Ross Hendrie April 15, 2008 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 46363)
Little Britain was never funny.

Thank you. Someone else with some sense.

Jamie Minty April 15, 2008 3:13 PM

I liked Lou and Andy and Ting Tong but I never thought Vicky Pollard was remotely good.

Just wondering if people in America had seen it!

Ben Dawson April 15, 2008 3:17 PM

Aye, Courtney Love and France Bean Cobain are big fans.

Jamie Minty April 15, 2008 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Dawson (Post 46375)
Aye, Courtney Love and France Bean Cobain are big fans.

I'll pretend I understnad by smiling :D

Ben Dawson April 15, 2008 3:31 PM

Widow and daughter of grunger rocker Kurt Cobain of the band Nirvana, killed himself by a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head, though there are a lot of conspiracy theories behind the event. After Nirvana disbanded, Dave Grohl (the drummer) stepped out from behind the drum kit and formed the Foo Fighters (although for the first album, he played all the instruments, apart from guitar on the track "X-Static" I think).

Danny Stewart April 15, 2008 5:01 PM

Let's stay on topic here, people.

Doodah April 17, 2008 6:17 PM

And, abruptly back on topic with a belated review of the episode!

I thought this episode was very good indeed. I gave it 8/10 as there were little parts of the episode I didn't really like (such as a huge great firey monstrosity being doused by a water pistol, kind of reminded me of Pokemon) but otherwise it had all the ingredients of a good solid Doctor Who episode. A moral dilemma (hurrah, the philosophy has returned) which I thought was well brought out by Donna/Tate, and now hopefully Donna knows that the Doctor always knows best :P as well as a good bit of action and mayhem which is always good. However I thought the escape pod was a bit far-fetched (yeah I know, creatures made up of molten lava are much more plausible) and at some points the plot was bit difficult to follow (grasping exactly how the Sooth-Sayers as well as the Sybbaline (Jesus just call them witches next time for gods sake its much easier to spell) connected in with the Pyroviles was a little hard to grasp, I thought).

Any guesses to the 'arc' this season then? Apart from of course the constant Rose references, we know that the arc this season is supposed to be something other than a single word or character (thank god they varied it) but a lot of interlinking items, from the past three series as well, that will all connect together in the end. We have already had the news of two planets lost and have breezed over the reasons for their destruction (most unlike the Doctor). Any thoughts? Or is that going too far off topic?

Danny Stewart April 17, 2008 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Doodah (Post 46466)
such as a huge great firey monstrosity being doused by a water pistol

So many people seem to have misunderstood this scene! The monster was most certainly not taken down with the water pistol -- the Doctor only used the water pistol to stagger it so that he and Donna would have a chance to run away! I agree that that's not made quite clear enough in the scene, but that puny little water pistol certainly wasn't enough to take that thing down!

Ben Dawson April 18, 2008 4:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Doodah (Post 46466)
Any guesses to the 'arc' this season then?

Anybody think the Time Lords will have a part to play one way or another in the finale?
I've got a theory, remember, jumping between alternate realities was simple back when the Time Lords were around. Now Rose is stuck in an alternate reality, right? Well, we've had references to planets disappearing, and such. What if it all eventually leads up to a return of the Time Lords and/or Gallifrey? If so, then my guess is, Rose wouldn't be stuck in the alternate reality anymore...or possibly, the walls between realities are rotting and braking down, caused by some sort of wound in time and space, which would again end up with the return of Gallifrey and the Time Lords. What do you think?

Chris Britton April 18, 2008 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Dawson (Post 46473)
Anybody think the Time Lords will have a part to play one way or another in the finale?
I've got a theory, remember, jumping between alternate realities was simple back when the Time Lords were around. Now Rose is stuck in an alternate reality, right? Well, we've had references to planets disappearing, and such. What if it all eventually leads up to a return of the Time Lords and/or Gallifrey? If so, then my guess is, Rose wouldn't be stuck in the alternate reality anymore...or possibly, the walls between realities are rotting and braking down, caused by some sort of wound in time and space, which would again end up with the return of Gallifrey and the Time Lords. What do you think?

Could be, perhaps due to a Dalek threat. I've seen a Dalek teaser trailer on the BBC website so they seem to be returning.

Danny Stewart April 18, 2008 11:30 AM

You guys think so epically, the new series should hire you.

No, that's not a compliment.

Chris Britton April 18, 2008 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 46482)
You guys think so epically, the new series should hire you.

No, that's not a compliment.

I don't want to work on the new series, not under RTD or anyone else, i don't see your problem Danny. We've all speculated before.

Danny Stewart April 18, 2008 1:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 46485)
I don't want to work on the new series, not under RTD or anyone else, i don't see your problem Danny. We've all speculated before.

I'm saying the finale's going to suck because it's going to involve way too much emotion and drama and epicness.

Superkid11 April 18, 2008 1:19 PM

So you'd prefer a "*shrug* Oh well let's move on" or a funny ending?
... actually, I'd like those myself...

Danny Stewart April 18, 2008 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 46489)
So you'd prefer a "*shrug* Oh well let's move on" or a funny ending?
... actually, I'd like those myself...

Just give us a kickass amazing plot, sans the drama.

Oh wait, RTD can only do one of those things. And it's not the kickass amazing plots.

Chris Britton April 18, 2008 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 46491)
Just give us a kickass amazing plot, sans the drama.

Oh wait, RTD can only do one of those things. And it's not the kickass amazing plots.

The only good ending would be the TARDIS falling on RTD and crushing him.

Ross Hendrie April 19, 2008 9:05 AM

I kinda agree with Danny, we need a more low key finale, although I wont deny that epic plots can be good if done well.

BritCanuck April 19, 2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 46477)
I've seen a Dalek teaser trailer on the BBC website so they seem to be returning.

Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oF0fDvdf2c (Fan video of location filming for episodes 4 x 12 and 13)

Chris Britton April 19, 2008 3:26 PM

They better give the Daleks a rest after this series. I like them but it's getting too predictable.


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