I know that. Although finding out what happened after Rimmer kneed Death in the balls is an itnerst of mine, one day i will find out :P

If you say so, Chris. Let's try to stay on topic here. :P

Oh frack no, not more Star Trek. What that franchise needs done is to be treated like nuclear waste; bury it and leave it alone for a few years so all the bad stuff can die away.

There was a sci-fi comedy being shown on BBC Two a few months back, and if you were to watch that expecting a serious sci-fi show you'd be better pleased with the results than with Enterprise.

My point is there is too much bad stuff associated with Star Trek now, and that's not going to die away just because there is a new film coming which might be good. Sure B&B are gone, but it'll probably just be the obsesive fans who care about that, and it'll only be the obsesive fans who will give the new movie a chance. Everyone else probably won't waste their money on it and so Star Trek will die anyway.

What I think Star Trek will turn into is some kind of disfigured dinosaur on a life support machine; in which case the best thing to do is to turn off the life support machine, that is Paramount should stop all of these attempts to keep it alive. If it lives, then it will be living without any support from Paramount and hopefully will bring back enough of a following that it will be worthwhile Paramount doing a decent job of Star Trek. If it dies, then it saves Paramount hurting the fans of Star Trek with more rubbish.

[EDIT] That was just my reaction after hearing that there would be another Star Trek film, after reading what it would be about in the articles my reaction is now as follows: Paramount, what the **** do you think you're doing? You want to kill Star Trek just turn off the life support machine, there no need to rape it, mutilate it, fire a machine gun at it then rape what ever's left again. Younger versions of Kirk and Spock? How many other people here can see that they're just seeing how much money they can squeeze out of Star Trek's past?

In most respects i agree with you Rogue, although not as harshly you have summed up my fears.

About the the other Sci Fi show, that was Hyperdrive, I only saw it once, but it was just awful, it was ment to be a comedy but there was nothing like that there, it was just awful more of a cheap rip off of Red Dwarf, I would have rather watched Enterprise.

As i said above, they should do what they did with TOS, let it sleep for a few years to shed it's bad appearence, and allow time for new ideas to fester and appeear. I can understand them wanting to keep it going, since i would hate for it to die, but in all fairness, the movie might be a bad idea, then again it could be a blessing, only time will tell.

You know, when Rogue spells it out like that, I pretty much agree with virtually everything he said... I just wouldn't have said it so harshly. But he brings up a number of valid points, and in my opinion, it's disheartening to see more Star Trek coming back so soon. Paramount doesn't seem to be able to see the long-term of the situation, and that's unfortunate for Star Trek's future.

That's a bit of a sudden change of tune...

Not really. I mean, I'm hoping it's good and all, but even if it's the best damn Star Trek movie of all time, the public have really had enough at this point, and it's the public that they're trying to appeal to, not the die-hard fans. They'll watch it either way.

I am with Danny and Rogue on this, Star Trek needs to rest, it's good to see a film, i will go see it. But after that it needs to die down for a few years.

Like Rogue said, it's a good idea to bury it in the ground until B&B have both copped it and someone competant arrives.

B&B have copped it, as far as Paramount is concerned.

I meant copped it as in gone to a better place if you know what I mean. :P

Well, as long as no-more damage is done, things should be ok in the future.

I figured as much, but again, as far as Paramount is concerned, they have -- because I highly doubt they'll ever work on a Paramount-sanctioned Star Trek project ever again.

That's what we're all hoping for. I still feel it's too soon. I think 2010 would have been a better time to release new Star Trek, at the very earliest.

I agree, it's still too soon, at least during the next decade.

Star Trek XI poster
 

Apparently there's a poster now out for Star Trek XI, which is set to premiere some time in 2008. No actual news on the plot of the movie aside from this:



Other than that, we just have the poster to go on. Thought I'd share it here.

Been out a while :) sorry mate, although im still quite divided on a new Star Trek movie, i am worried.

Im quite concerned about this.

If they do it skillfully, which I hope JJ Abrams can do, then id imagine it will be a resounding success.

I dont know though.

i won;t go and see it at least, my faith in Star trek ahs been battered thanks to Enterprise.

I liked Enterprise. It's a shame so few people gave it a chance. But I do think J.J. Abrams can do a good job -- we'll have to wait and see, but I'll certainly give it a chance! Hopefully it'll be just the breath of Star Trek fresh air we all need!

If it does for Star Trek what Batman Begins did for it's franchise i would be relieved :)

Yeah that's what I think.

JJ Abrams did an excellent job with LOST and things, if he uses skill like that on Star Trek then I dont foresee any trouble.

If he can turn the franchise around hes a hero :)

Indeed. I'm glad we've finally got new blood in there.

fmmmm, fresh blood. :P

Shatner angry at ST movie producers
 

I have just read from the well known LCARS website that William Shatner is angry at the producers of Star Trek XI as Lenord Nemoy has beem offered a cemeo role in the latest film. This comes after it has been shown that Shatner and Nemoy bothed signed deals giving them creative control about casting of actors in roles which have touched countless generations of Sci Fi Fans.

Rumors of actors to play Kirk and Spock have ranged and rumors are abound. Matt Danom has emerged as the most lilely candidate to play kirk and he has conformed that he is open to assuming that role. Adrien Brody Has been linked with Spock, and bears an uncanny resemblence to the Vulcan, while Gary Sinse has been linked with playing McCoy. Although rumors are still unconformed.

The film is set for a Christmas 2008 release currently.

So yes, whats the current opinion from the DS populace. I can slightly see bills unhappy reaction if it is true, as it would be nice to have some reminder of the original run, but i can't really deicde on what to believe at the moment. The choice of actors seems to be quite spot on, as Damon, Brody and Sinse all have some resemblence to the characters they are rumored to play, I can actually see them all fitting into the roles easily. I was rumored ben Affleck was in the running for Spock, but i can't see Star trek and Afflect really going together.

I'm not sure about any of this. It all seems a bit gimmicky at the moment, and the fact that they do nothing to confirm or deny any of these rumors doesn't help.

Especially with the mixed fan raction, apparently it's not even conformed whos directing the thing any more.

Yeah, that's what I've heard.

Well, we´ll just have to wait and see. I hope they dont screw this up.

Remember the odd numbered curse guys :P

It's not odd-numbered though. It's just Star Trek. :P

Star Trek
 

The release date for Star Trek has been set for Christmas Day 2008. Also, it's been revealed that this guy has been cast as Spock, and also that Leonard Nimoy will appear in the film as an older Spock.

Newest movie poster:

Whos been cast as Younger Spock?

Im glad Nemoy is in it? I wonder what time frame the older Spock will be set in. The last we saw of him was that he was staying on Romulus to teach the dissidents the way of Vulcan. So anything could happen to him.

Click the text link, Chris. "This guy."

Ah yes. Although he looks too Human to play Spock. Adrian Broody has the complexion and looks for a Vulcan. I can only hope the producers know what they are doing. I would be suprised if Gary Sinse does nto get the McCoy Role if hes in it, as hes got the right looks and acting talent to play him.

Also, I know this is the eleventh Star Trek film and all, but JJ Abrams gets quite annoyed when people call it Star Trek XI cause technically the movie is just called "Star Trek." Should we rename the topic?

And am I the only one who thinks that movie poster looks a tad amateurish?

No, I'm using the thread title to mean "The Eleventh Star Trek Movie" rather than the name of the film.

And about the poster, meh. Looks alright. Could be better though.

It's not really a poster which gets you hyped up for it.

Yeah agreed.

Apparently they are casitng for the roles of the other crew, so expect Scotty, Uhura, Chekov and Sulu too.