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Chris Britton April 18, 2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 46480)
That quote is months old.

All the news and information you could want is available here: http://www.trekmovie.com

Ah, thanks mate.

Chris Britton April 19, 2008 5:50 PM

JJ Abrams has started post production on the movie and says it's true to Roddenberrys vision and he's made sure that he is honouring the franchise for all it's fans. he also mentioned it's a new kind of action which has not been seen in a trek film before.

NB: I',m going to make sure i keep this topic update as much as i can now, seeing as now i've got better access to info, also because I'm want to keep Star trek going on this place, even if it's in a little way and regardless of who sees it :)

One thing that I noted along the way was that theres not going to be any Treknobabble in this film, apparently because Abrams is trying to make the film appeal to people who have seen Trek and ones who have not. While I don't really know if thats a good idea or not, since I always enjoyed Treknobabble and I do remember that Cloverfield was a decent film, but not a revolution. Which seems to be what Abrams is trying to do with Star Trek

Chris Britton May 2, 2008 5:02 PM

Not much to report on the film as of late, although there was an interview with Nichelle Nichols and Zoe Saldana, which might hint at spoilers too.

http://trekmovie.com/2008/04/29/nich...rek/#more-1905

Ross Hendrie November 17, 2008 1:58 PM

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

Some new trailers. If I do say so myself, this film is set to be extremely cool.

Oh and also, does everyone know it has been put back to spring 2009?

Danny Stewart November 17, 2008 2:22 PM

Yes, yes, and yes. :D

Ross Hendrie November 17, 2008 5:29 PM

lol Im glad to see you optomistic about Star Trek once again.

Danny Stewart November 17, 2008 10:20 PM

To be fair, I've always been optimistic about Star Trek -- Star Trek once Berman and Braga were out of the picture. Just like I've always been optimistic about Doctor Who, once RTD was out of the picture. :P

Mister_Wilbur November 18, 2008 1:02 PM

Huzzah! Simon Pegg as Scotty!

"I like this ship! It's exciting!"

Ross Hendrie November 18, 2008 4:39 PM

Dont start me on Pegg, it's a travesty that they've cast an Englishman as Scotty. He better get the accent right.

Danny Stewart November 18, 2008 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister_Wilbur (Post 52009)
Huzzah! Simon Pegg as Scotty!

"I like this ship! It's exciting!"

:D

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52010)
Dont start me on Pegg, it's a travesty that they've cast an Englishman as Scotty. He better get the accent right.

...

You're an odd one, sir. James Doohan wasn't Scottish either, you know.

Ross Hendrie November 20, 2008 6:12 PM

Yeah but he wasn't English, that's the travesty.

Danny Stewart November 20, 2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52012)
Yeah but he wasn't English, that's the travesty.

...

Like I said, you're an odd one.

Ross Hendrie November 21, 2008 4:28 PM

Having an Englishman play a Scotsman, it's... wrong!

Danny Stewart November 21, 2008 8:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52016)
Having an Englishman play a Scotsman, it's... wrong!

I find it amusing how you can keep stating this claim without ever once justifying it. :P

Ross Hendrie November 22, 2008 3:15 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_national_identity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_National_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England...otball_rivalry

Chris Britton November 22, 2008 8:43 PM

Simon Pegg actually looks like a great Scotty, plus I find he has a great sense of humor around him due to his comic roots. I felt that Scotty had a nice sense of humor around him too.

All I can say is that next summer will be busy for me :P I have this, Dragonball and Wolverine to go see.

Reminds me of now with Video games, currently trying to balance Call of Duty, Left 4 Dead, Fallout 3 andRred Alert 3.

Danny Stewart November 23, 2008 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 52017)
I find it amusing how you can keep stating this claim without ever once justifying it. :P

I don't really count MASSIVE LINK PASTING as justification. How about you explain it yourself, using, you know, like, words?

Recurring Villain November 23, 2008 1:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52016)
Having an Englishman play a Scotsman, it's... wrong!

They couldn't have a real Scotsman gaying up the screen, now could they? Seriously, in no other country is it socially acceptable for men to wear dresses.

Also, Kirk looks like a douche in this movie. Picard ftw.

Ross Hendrie November 23, 2008 2:20 PM

You clearly have no idea what a kilt actually is then. If you're going to call it some sort of gay name, at least say skirt, as it's at least a comparable item of clothing.

Recurring Villain November 23, 2008 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52078)
You clearly have no idea what a kilt actually is then. If you're going to call it some sort of gay name, at least say skirt, as it's at least a comparable item of clothing.

Do I look like I give a shit?

Ross Hendrie November 23, 2008 5:50 PM

Apparently not now.

You did bring it up, however.

Ben Dawson November 27, 2008 10:29 AM

OWNED is all I have to say.

Superkid11 November 27, 2008 10:32 AM

Racial pride never made sense to me. What's wrong as long as he gets the accent right?

Chris Britton November 27, 2008 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 52196)
Racial pride never made sense to me. What's wrong as long as he gets the accent right?

Thats what i think, and hes got a pretty good grasp of it as well. John Cho is Korean but no-ones complaining about him playing a Japanese character ;)

Ross Hendrie November 27, 2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 52200)
Thats what i think, and hes got a pretty good grasp of it as well. John Cho is Korean but no-ones complaining about him playing a Japanese character ;)

That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

Superkid11 November 27, 2008 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52201)
That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

China and Japan really aren't all that fond of each other...

Chris Britton November 27, 2008 2:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52201)
That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

Actually I think I do. Sulu was meant to represent all Eastern Asians on the Enterprise, Japanese, Chinese and Koreans for example. I felt that Scotty represented everyone British on the Enterprise, so I am quite fine with Simon Pegg playing Scotty, he is representing me and you and specific nationality shouldn't matter.

Ben Dawson November 27, 2008 3:21 PM

Speaking of Sulu.........I'M A CELEBRITY, GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!
Yeah, even though I've never really watched Star Trek, I think I'll still give this movie a go.

Ross Hendrie November 27, 2008 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 52208)
China and Japan really aren't all that fond of each other...

That's the point. Scotland and England aren't fond of each other either.

Superkid11 November 27, 2008 4:38 PM

That strikes me as odd. After all, they're on the same landmass...


...then again so are northern and southern Ireland...

Recurring Villain November 27, 2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52201)
That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

There's a difference between not understanding and not being blinded by some delusional sense of national pride. We understand it alright, we just don't follow it.

We're all the same species. A country is just lines in dirt. Considering we have the ability to communicate instantly across the planet and travel anywhere on it in less than 20 hours, racial or nationalistic pride today is really nothing more than a useless relic of the past. We're one global community now. Learn to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 52210)
Actually I think I do. Sulu was meant to represent all Eastern Asians on the Enterprise, Japanese, Chinese and Koreans for example.

If he was supposed to represent Japan, they wouldn't have called him 'Sulu'... There is no 'L' sound in Japanese.

Danny Stewart November 27, 2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 52234)
There's a difference between not understanding and not being blinded by some delusional sense of national pride. We understand it alright, we just don't follow it.

We're all the same species. A country is just lines in dirt. Considering we have the ability to communicate instantly across the planet and travel anywhere on it in less than 20 hours, racial or nationalistic pride today is really nothing more than a useless relic of the past. We're one global community now. Learn to deal with it.

If he was supposed to represent Japan, they wouldn't have called him 'Sulu'... There is no 'L' sound in Japanese.

Bam. RV pwns again. I'm just going to start quoting his posts without adding any noteworthy response of my own to reflect my concurrence with his statements.

Ross Hendrie November 28, 2008 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 52234)
We're one global community now. Learn to deal with it.

People are nice to each other in communities. :)

Chris Britton November 28, 2008 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52264)
People are nice to each other in communities. :)

I hate to sound annoyed Ross but in that respects Simon Pegg is part of the British community and your not being very nice to him even though he will never read this, matter of principle. You can hardly call RV out on what is an excellent point.

Ross Hendrie November 28, 2008 3:47 PM

I am pointing out how if RV believes the whole world is a community, then why isn't he nice to everyone? Even James, no matter how much of a n00b he is.

Anyway, this is being blown completely out of proportion. I am not out to assassinate Simon Pegg just because he has been cast as Scotty... It's more a case of mild irritation than intense controversy.

Danny Stewart November 28, 2008 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52264)
People are nice to each other in communities. :)

I call bullshit. Show me where niceness or kindness enters into the definition of "community."

1. a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
2. a locality inhabited by such a group.
3. a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists (usually prec. by the): the business community; the community of scholars.
4. a group of associated nations sharing common interests or a common heritage: the community of Western Europe.
5. Ecclesiastical. a group of men or women leading a common life according to a rule.
6. Ecology. an assemblage of interacting populations occupying a given area.
7. joint possession, enjoyment, liability, etc.: community of property.
8. similar character; agreement; identity: community of interests.
9. the community, the public; society: the needs of the community.

Superkid11 November 28, 2008 4:07 PM

Everyone gets along only in a perfect community. The entire world, as a community, is incredibly fucked up.(well, fucked up in many other ways too) But that's still what it is.

EDIT: LOL DISREGARD THAT. Danny's got the real definition.

Chris Britton November 28, 2008 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 52275)
I call bullshit. Show me where niceness or kindness enters into the definition of "community."

1. a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
2. a locality inhabited by such a group.
3. a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists (usually prec. by the): the business community; the community of scholars.
4. a group of associated nations sharing common interests or a common heritage: the community of Western Europe.
5. Ecclesiastical. a group of men or women leading a common life according to a rule.
6. Ecology. an assemblage of interacting populations occupying a given area.
7. joint possession, enjoyment, liability, etc.: community of property.
8. similar character; agreement; identity: community of interests.
9. the community, the public; society: the needs of the community.

Quoted for truth

Ronnie Rowlands November 28, 2008 6:27 PM

And so it begins. Again. :(

Recurring Villain November 28, 2008 7:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie (Post 52264)
People are nice to each other in communities. :)

Inside a prison, the inmates are the 'prisoner community'. So, using your logic, everyone inside a prison must do knitting all day in between tea and slumber parties.

OH WAIT NO THEY DONT THEY RAPE EACH OTHER IN THE SHOWER.

Seriously, what kind of fucked up dictionary do you use?


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