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Dalek104 April 28, 2007 1:39 PM

Doctor Who 3x05 - "Evolution of the Daleks"
 
Plot Summary - Written by Helen Raynor
The Cult of Skaro's plan is in full force. Dalek Sec is reborn in human form while the Pig Slaves are launching an enormous assault upon the Central Park Hooverville, along with the remaining pure Daleks of the Cult of Skaro. The Doctor, Martha, Solomon and the others must stay and fight. Time is running out, for the future of humans and Daleks alike is being decided underneath the Empire State Building. Will the Doctor cope with joining an unholy alliance?

Ronnie Rowlands April 28, 2007 2:18 PM

Heheh. Bitching Daleks. I like the way that they replaced the Dalek Ray with the energy bursts, I always thought they looked better. I also loved the Tommy Gun shaped Dalek weapons :P

MickJo April 28, 2007 3:28 PM

I was a bit dissapointed how this turned out sadly, i really hoped the Cult of Skaro would become re-occuring villians.

Danny Stewart April 29, 2007 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MickJo (Post 34693)
i really hoped the Cult of Skaro would become re-occuring villians.

I'm glad they're gone. I had grown tired of the Cult of Skaro after two appearances.

Ronnie Rowlands April 29, 2007 3:02 AM

I never liked the idea of 'named Daleks'

Danny Stewart April 29, 2007 3:12 AM

It was an interesting concept, and I can understand the motivation behind it. But I never thought it would work long-term.

Ronnie Rowlands April 29, 2007 3:53 AM

Thank heavens then that there is only one left. So he will probably make a load of new ones and they'll keep coming back.

Jez April 29, 2007 3:59 AM

It's a shame they killed off Sec though. It would have saved them paying various royalties to use the Daleks at a later date. ;)

Ben Dawson April 29, 2007 5:54 AM

I loved how Sec gained a sense of moral and justice i.g. "His death was wrong". I loved how he started to really become human, trying to make the new Dalek/humans more human than Dalek, it was a real sign that he had changed a lot.

Ross Hendrie April 29, 2007 12:26 PM

I thought this generally not too bad, but one of the poorer episodes in which the Daleks have appeared. For a start, they changed the weapons to bursts rather than a beam which is an absolute travesty. I also think they killed Solomon off too quickly, it would've been good seeing more of him in the episode.

I liked the idea of the Dalek human guys, they kinda reminded me of the old brainwashed slaves the Daleks used in that William Hartnell(I think) arc that had the invasion. Also, did anyone else notice that the hand-held weapons they had looked like futuristic Thompsons? I thought that was quite good.

The Dalekanium got me confused though. It came from the casings, right? I thought it was an explosive?

Ben Dawson April 29, 2007 12:30 PM

It was used as both in the classic series, explosive first, then it was changed to being the metal the casings are made out of.

Ronnie Rowlands April 30, 2007 2:51 AM

Uh, Ross, I've already pointed out that the Guns were shaped like Tommy Guns :P

robertbeare April 30, 2007 7:09 AM

Was a really great episode , but the problems are where would they get the materials to build new dalek guns /tommy guns, and the dalekanium just polycarbide plates off dalek.

The good thing about that episode was that the dalek sec was trying to help the dalek race become better but the other :dalek:'s didnt understand shame really would have liked to seen a new dalek race.

Jez April 30, 2007 8:25 AM

Agreed, it would have really made at least one interesting story line at a later date to have the Human-Dalek race causing mischief in the future (the human side will just add to their determination to conquer...espcially as they picked NYers! ;))

Sam Davies April 30, 2007 8:36 AM

It certainly was interesting. I think that the Dalek Sek having emotions ruined it a bit though.

Danny Stewart April 30, 2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Davies (Post 34745)
It certainly was interesting. I think that the Dalek Sek having emotions ruined it a bit though.

That was kind of the entire storyline. :P

robertbeare April 30, 2007 3:36 PM

The emotions part of it , was the best bit because the daleks didnt understand the concept and thats why they went against dalek sec !

Derek Metaltron May 1, 2007 7:21 AM

Once again I ended up feeling sorry for a Dalek (though this one was more human than most). Pity to see the Cult of Skaro pretty much wiped out, and its suddenly worrying to think how long it might be til their next appearance, as rumour has it they won't be on next year. :(

Ronnie Rowlands May 1, 2007 7:23 AM

You don't need Daleks in every series to make it good. Tom Baker was Doctor for 7 years, and only had 2 Dalek stories in his run.

Derek Metaltron May 1, 2007 7:28 AM

I'm aware of that, but for the new series its becoming something of a tradition. Still I need a nicer rumour that the original Cybermen will be in full force next year, so we've a silver lining.

Ronnie Rowlands May 1, 2007 9:48 AM

Well better not have them next year before it does become a tradition/

Danny Stewart May 1, 2007 12:09 PM

Agreed with Ronn. We do not need the Daleks every year, and if it's starting to become a tradition, then let's break it now while we still can.

Ross Hendrie May 1, 2007 4:12 PM

I think that it's been partly broken this year. We've got a non-Dalek enemy in the finale, that's probably a step forward.

Danny Stewart May 1, 2007 5:45 PM

lol. Ross, you can't "partly" break a "Daleks return every year" tradition in a year in which they use the Daleks. :P

It is progress though, so still...

robertbeare May 2, 2007 4:22 AM

The daleks will be back by next series , and its back in the future as ive heard from newspaper that dalek fights a tank, and ive heard on the radio that after a next series they will be getting new doctor

robertbeare May 2, 2007 4:27 AM

Trust me daryl the tank will lose to the superior dalek , they are much better !!

Ronnie Rowlands May 2, 2007 7:17 AM

David Tennant is meant to be leaving in the middle of series 4.

Ben Dawson May 2, 2007 8:52 AM

There's only ever been one regeneration before the end of a series, and that was the 5th Doctor's regeneration into the 6th, and even then, there was only one 6th Doctor episode that season. But nothing's official yet he hasn't officially announced he will be leaving.

Sam Davies May 2, 2007 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands (Post 34958)
David Tennant is meant to be leaving in the middle of series 4.

Why the F... is he doing that he's the best.

Ross Hendrie May 2, 2007 11:26 AM

There were rumours he was giving it up after season 3 but that's not true. I think maybe after series 4 he'll start thinking about giving it up but probably not before then.

Danny Stewart May 2, 2007 12:52 PM

Nothing you hear about David Tennant leaving at the end of the fourth series is true. He has committed at least to the entire fourth series, and he loves the role, so don't expect him to give it up any time soon.

Ronnie Rowlands May 2, 2007 1:39 PM

That's good. I don't know why Patrick Troughton went around telling the other Doctors to "only do 3."

Ben Dawson May 2, 2007 3:10 PM

Actually, he only advised Peter Davison to do 3, Peter Davison passed on the infomation to Slyvester McCoy.

Danny Stewart May 2, 2007 5:10 PM

I never knew Peter Davison passed that along to Sylvester McCoy.

Ronnie Rowlands May 3, 2007 3:01 AM

Yeah, Ben's right. That's kind of what I meant, in a way, PT kind of started it. Not that Sylvester had much choice, they binned Doc Who after series 3.

Ben Dawson May 3, 2007 4:57 AM

Actually, Sylvester McCoy only got 2 seasons, his last season was season 26.

Ronnie Rowlands May 3, 2007 5:09 AM

I think you'll find Sylvester McCoy had 3 series'.

Ben Dawson May 3, 2007 5:25 AM

Yes, your right, right you are.

MI7 May 4, 2007 10:56 AM

There was something a while back (no idea how true it is) that McCoy would stay on into Season 27 had the show not been canceled, though Sophie Aldred would have been replaced halfway through the season after he contract ran out, apparently with a character who was a " female safecracker whom the Doctor would have taken under his wing, with her gangster father as a recurring character." This was taken from interviews made afterwards with the principal members of production - the only thing said about replacing McCoy was that one of the actors in the forefront was Richard Griffiths, who had been considered for the Fifth Doctor.

So that pretty much for definite says that McCoy would have done more that three seasons if he could have - it's the only evidence there probably ever will be either way on the subject.


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