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Chris Britton October 25, 2007 6:10 PM

What about a web-comic?
 
I knwo this idea was used in a certain form where we all played Daleks :D But i had the idea today of perhaps combining what we did in Dalek Shorts, taking ST.coms The Trek life, a helping of Cyanide and Happiness and then adding a few spoonfuls of Sci Fi Socety and mixing them all into a web-comic. Where it is us, as humans in some location just going about doing what we do best.

I did have the idea of this being a group effort too. For example, someone would be on plots, another would do the humorous one liners and other dialouge, while one or two actually draw the comics and insert the dialouge and presto! We have a weekly web comic we can put in it;s own forum or something.

I wanted to disscuss this because i feel stuff like Sci Fi Socety and dalek shorts were too good to be allowed to die forever, maybe doing it in a new way might allow them to live on as we work together like the friends we have become. :)

I am interested in thoughts and ideas guys :)

Danny Stewart October 25, 2007 7:06 PM

I have software for Mac called Comic Life which would be good for this. Although I don't know who we could get to draw it. There's a girl in my anthropology class who's quite talented at drawing and she does a web comic of her own, but I very much doubt she would be interested in this. :P

Superkid11 October 25, 2007 7:35 PM

I'd give it a shot but I'm not that good of an artist and I do have my own thing to work on... when I get down to working on it. :P

Danny Stewart October 25, 2007 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 41330)
I'd give it a shot but I'm not that good of an artist and I do have my own thing to work on... when I get down to working on it. :P

See? That's the kind of priority level people would give our web comic. :P

Things they need to do
Things they really should do
Things they'd like to do
Oh, and that silly DannyStewart.com web comic thing

:P

Superkid11 October 25, 2007 9:41 PM

Put "things they'd like to do" at the top and you've pretty much got how I would prioritize it. :P
I've thought about making a webcomic for my utterly dead forum but alas my laziness is too great.

Chris Britton October 26, 2007 4:47 AM

Lol, perhaps a crate of red Bull might help.

I could very easily come up with plots, since I would assume comics would be at least 3 slides. With a bigger strip once a month or something, I can just dig into old plots and re-adapt them ;)

and of course, characters, for example :)

Danny: Head of DS.com, loves to slip Apple and firefox references into his daily speech, loves Doctor Who
Chris: Moderator, tends to display nothing but mindless optimism, loves Star Trek. Seems unaware of what goes on around him
RV: Always has a joke to say and an anecdote to mention, always makes.
Ross: Loves his War, tends to be more serious then his counterparts but has a sense of humor
Ben: Always has Nirvana or foo fighters blasting from his room, hardly comes out
Ronn: Alternates between humor and seriousness.
Jez: Admin, Dannys right hand so to speak, knows when to bring the gauntlet crashing down upon those who upset him.

Remember, these are just humorous takes on a few of us. I will add mroe once i can find a sentance to sum them up in. Do not take the descriptions seriously. :) Now here are some little plot samples

Episode 1: The team discuss Doctor Who only getting 3 specials in 2009
Episode 2: Danny tries to sell iMacs via the DS.com store, Apple sues.
Episode 3: Ross attempts to get Ben out of his room, RV eats popcorn.
Episode 4: Danny tries to teach Chris about outer awareness, then remembers the house in not insured.
Episode 5: The team attempt to take over production of Star Trek XI.
Episode 6: Danny tries to resurrect Stargate SG1, Chris destroys it.
Episode 7: Ronn goes crazy, Jez loses his Banhammer.
Episode 8: Chris starts a torchwood RPG but forgets where he put the pen.
Episode 9: Everyone turns Dannys room into a Jedi Temple.
Episode 10: The team tries for Ross War reinactment, Ben gets them fighting to Smells like Teen Spirit.

Danny Stewart October 26, 2007 5:19 AM

Huh... you know that could actually work. I think the animation would really be the hardest part. James? Is this something you might be up for?

Chris Britton October 26, 2007 5:48 AM

Yeah. The animation will be the hardest part, We could easily supply a photo of ourselves, it's just translating that into cartoony form.

Dalek104 October 26, 2007 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41339)
Huh... you know that could actually work. I think the animation would really be the hardest part. James? Is this something you might be up for?

This looks like a good idea! I'm happy to attempt to make some kind of comic/animation, but I can't promise it will come out looking great. :P

Maybe I should look into Flash animation.

Oh, and by the way, Dalek Shorts is definitely not dead yet. :D

Ronnie Rowlands October 26, 2007 2:48 PM

does that mean I can do credits? :-)

Danny Stewart October 26, 2007 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalek104 (Post 41348)
This looks like a good idea! I'm happy to attempt to make some kind of comic/animation, but I can't promise it will come out looking great. :P

Maybe I should look into Flash animation.

Oh, and by the way, Dalek Shorts is definitely not dead yet. :D

Excellent! Let us know what you can come up with. :D

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands (Post 41349)
does that mean I can do credits? :-)

No. There's only one name involved anyway.

Recurring Villain October 27, 2007 2:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41328)
I have software for Mac called Comic Life which would be good for this. Although I don't know who we could get to draw it.

I have software for Windows called Photoshop that would do even better.

Yes I know Photoshop is on Macs. And no, Photoshop does not count as a game.

Danny Stewart October 27, 2007 4:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41364)
I have software for Windows called Photoshop that would do even better.

Yes I know Photoshop is on Macs. And no, Photoshop does not count as a game.

Ooh, several problems with this.

1) Photoshop is on Macs, as you acknowledged.
2) Macs run games.
3) Comic Life can turn out a professional result much faster than Photoshop. It's designed for this kind of thing.

Superkid11 October 27, 2007 9:35 AM

It's true, somebody played Quake on their iMac.

Oh god, I wonder if said webcomic would include these OS arguments. I can already see it, bombs flying everywhere and we ultimately realize that, above all else... there is Milhouse.

Josef Kenny October 27, 2007 10:59 AM

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It's true, somebody played Quake on their iMac.
http://www.appledirect.net/expo05gallery/slide11.JPEG
Somebody played Quake on iMac
http://weblog.infoworld.com/virtuali...ves/30game.bmp
Somebody played WoW on OSX
http://www.wideopendoors.net/images/windows_on_mac.jpg
Someone ran Windows with Boot Camp on MBP
To easily play Windows games
http://www.dannystewart.com/pictures...023-152351.png
Danny is trying to play HL2 directly on OS X

Danny Stewart October 27, 2007 7:57 PM

Thank you, Rat Souffle! You are awesome.

Recurring Villain October 27, 2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41366)
Comic Life can turn out a professional result much faster than Photoshop. It's designed for this kind of thing.

So was Illustrator.

Adobe owns.

Superkid11 October 27, 2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41379)
Adobe owns.

Damn straight.

Danny Stewart October 28, 2007 1:40 AM

I made this in Comic Life a few months ago. It took me around five minutes.

http://www.dannystewart.com/pictures/murraycomic.png

Go ahead and make something similar in Photoshop or Illustrator and time yourself. It'll take you at least five minutes just to set up the frames.

Superkid11 October 28, 2007 2:07 AM

Ah, but is drawing possible in it?

Recurring Villain October 28, 2007 2:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41383)
It'll take you at least five minutes just to set up the frames.

The entire webcomic community disagrees.

Josef Kenny October 28, 2007 5:21 AM

10 Minutes? 20 Minutes? 456 Minutes?

Why can't we all just play Quake? :P

Chris Britton October 28, 2007 5:41 AM

Well does the idea of throwing the entire active staff fo the DS.com forums into a bloody warzone actually appeal to anyone here? :P

Whats the link for comic life, perhaps if i can download it I could give it a personal test. because i've never heard of it untill now :)

As for credits, i guess it depends hwo we go about things, i've done a few plots, we have someone on animation, it's just the humor side of things now who we need someone to chip in: Over to you RV :P

Danny Stewart October 28, 2007 5:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 41386)
Ah, but is drawing possible in it?

Yes.........

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Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 41392)
Whats the link for comic life, perhaps if i can download it I could give it a personal test. because i've never heard of it untill now :)

It's for Mac.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41387)
The entire webcomic community disagrees.

So start your stopwatch and give me the results.

Recurring Villain October 29, 2007 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41397)
So start your stopwatch and give me the results.

I have a similar, if not identical, program that came with my drawing tablet. There's no point using Comic Life. The time it saves is negligible if we want full creative control of the production of the comic. Areas of your image that leave the comic frames, interwoven frames, inter frame action etc. are likely not possible in Comic Life, and would have to be done manually and eventually somehow mixed into your pointless proprietary program.

Only someone who has no idea what they're doing would want to use the creative equivalent of a just-add water solution.

Also, check this out. Adobe owns :cool:.

Danny Stewart October 29, 2007 5:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41404)
I have a similar, if not identical, program that came with my drawing tablet. There's no point using Comic Life. The time it saves is negligible if we want full creative control of the production of the comic. Areas of your image that leave the comic frames, interwoven frames, inter frame action etc. are likely not possible in Comic Life, and would have to be done manually and eventually somehow mixed into your pointless proprietary program.

Only someone who has no idea what they're doing would want to use the creative equivalent of a just-add water solution.

Whatever. I like Comic Life. It's good enough for me, I don't need any more control than it offers, and I frankly would not be bothered to make comics using anything else as it would take too much time and effort. If you want me to make a comic, I would only do so using Comic Life. If you want someone else to do it, they can use whatever the hell they want.

Recurring Villain October 29, 2007 6:07 PM

Well, I guess you're not going to be the one making them then.

If it's a DSF comic then anyone in the DSF should be able to contribute. And since we've not all been integrated into the Cult of Jobs, using a proprietary just-add-water program is silly.

Danny Stewart October 29, 2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41413)
Well, I guess you're not going to be the one making them then.

That does not logically follow from my statement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41413)
If it's a DSF comic then anyone in the DSF should be able to contribute.

Yeeess.... Your point?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41413)
And since we've not all been integrated into the Cult of Jobs, using a proprietary just-add-water program is silly.

It's by no means proprietary. Nor is it just-add-water. I wish you'd stop insulting something you've never used. It's quite versatile and I have not yet fully figured out how to use everything it offers.

Also, after visiting the company's web site, apparently they make a Windows version as well.

Also, stop with the Mac cult bullshit, now.

Recurring Villain October 30, 2007 2:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41414)
Also, stop with the Mac cult bullshit, now.

As soon as you give up your role as an Official Apple Propaganda Pusher :P

Danny Stewart October 30, 2007 2:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41415)
As soon as you give up your role as an Official Apple Propaganda Pusher :P

I push no propaganda. I push facts.

Chris Britton October 30, 2007 8:30 AM

I never thought we needed to draw things outside the comic panels personally ;)

Facts, progranda, no difference. Danny just loves his Macs and I can't blame him :P

Josef Kenny October 30, 2007 11:58 AM

A quick thing I rustled up in the Windows version of comic life (took about 7 or 8 minutes, and this was my first try at using it.)

http://img.photoamp.com/pa/07/10/30/bKo5wWi.png

Chris Britton October 30, 2007 12:43 PM

Thats quite good =) An encouraging first go in my opinion :)

Superkid11 October 30, 2007 1:38 PM

I wonder just how many topics are Danny and RV gonna butt heads? I'll tell you how many, everything that even remotely involves computers and software. RV is sure Apple and all its fans brainwash helpless consumers, Danny defends it with his life. Oh yes, it's an age old battle. These are long and bloody, and nobody wins. ... it's very fun to watch though.
*play Star Trek battle theme*

Also, nice one Rat. :)

Superkid11 October 30, 2007 5:52 PM

I apologize for the double post but I thought I'd bring this up:

There's also GIMP, which is entirely free, open source, and can do almost anything Photoshop can do. The UI is different, but the features match up. It can work on Macs, Windows, AND Linux. ;)

Recurring Villain October 30, 2007 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41416)
I push no propaganda. I push facts.

Of course you do. So do I. So did Hitler. George Bush does as well. Your local pastor says the Bible is fact as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 41435)
I wonder just how many topics are Danny and RV gonna butt heads? I'll tell you how many, everything that even remotely involves computers and software. RV is sure Apple and all its fans brainwash helpless consumers, Danny defends it with his life. Oh yes, it's an age old battle. These are long and bloody, and nobody wins. ... it's very fun to watch though.

Participating is the real kicker.

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Originally Posted by Superkid11 (Post 41450)
IThere's also GIMP, which is entirely free, open source, and can do almost anything Photoshop can do. The UI is different, but the features match up. It can work on Macs, Windows, AND Linux. ;)

I've used the GIMP quite a bit in the past, sort of hoping I could use it to replace Photoshop. Unfortunately, it isn't really that good in comparison. I'm sure that will be rectified over time though, they're planning some overhauls, including the UI, that might turn it into a real contender (I'm hoping so). For now though (or at least, a few months ago when I used it last), it's pretty sucky.

Although, it can read PSD files, so it might be good for those who don't want to appropriate Photoshop while those of us who do use Photoshop can and we can still swap files.

Danny Stewart October 30, 2007 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41454)
Of course you do. So do I. So did Hitler. George Bush does as well. Your local pastor says the Bible is fact as well.

Um, yeah, except I actually do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41454)
I've used the GIMP quite a bit in the past, sort of hoping I could use it to replace Photoshop. Unfortunately, it isn't really that good in comparison. I'm sure that will be rectified over time though, they're planning some overhauls, including the UI, that might turn it into a real contender (I'm hoping so). For now though (or at least, a few months ago when I used it last), it's pretty sucky.

Although, it can read PSD files, so it might be good for those who don't want to appropriate Photoshop while those of us who do use Photoshop can and we can still swap files.

I will be the first to admit that the GIMP is not a full-fledged Photoshop replacement. Far from it, in fact. It's great to have, especially, as RV says, if you don't want to "appropriate" Photoshop, but it really doesn't measure up in almost any key area.

Recurring Villain October 30, 2007 8:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41458)
Um, yeah, except I actually do.

So do I. So did Hitler.

The definition of fact is blurry, that's why science doesn't use the term fact, but theory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41458)
I will be the first to admit that the GIMP is not a full-fledged Photoshop replacement. Far from it, in fact. It's great to have, especially, as RV says, if you don't want to "appropriate" Photoshop, but it really doesn't measure up in almost any key area.

One day Open Source will kick corporate ass. They say socialism is dead, but it's not. It just moved to the internet :cool:.

Danny Stewart October 30, 2007 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41460)
So do I. So did Hitler.

The definition of fact is blurry, that's why science doesn't use the term fact, but theory.

No, the definition of fact, like the things it describes, is quite clear. A fact is, and I quote, "a thing that is indisputably the case."

I provide those. You do too, sometimes. And I'm sure Hitler used facts as well.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 41460)
One day Open Source will kick corporate ass. They say socialism is dead, but it's not. It just moved to the internet :cool:.

I hope so.

Superkid11 October 30, 2007 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 41461)
I provide those. You do too, sometimes. And I'm sure Hitler used facts as well.

I think you're going to need to word that a bit better or that can be very misunderstood. o__o


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