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Chris Britton November 7, 2005 3:49 AM

Star Trek XI
 
I was reading a magazine, and i stumbled across an intersting article about a possibility of a new Star Trek film. Apparently, Rick Berman has done a first draft of a script. However i have also heard a lot fo thngs whichclaim there is nto a Star Trek 11 in the making. So i thought the good people on DS forums might want to share their Opinions on a new Star Trek Film. I think that it would not be a good thing just yet, leave ti a few years, untill people want a new movie or series commissioned, so they can think up new ideas and new problems, and then try it out again.

Danny Stewart November 7, 2005 7:07 AM

Well, it can never hurt to be prepared, and if an opportunity comes along, it's nice to have a drafted script already. But I do agree with you, Chris, I think after Nemesis was so poorly received (even though I enjoyed it), the public definitely needs another few years between Star Trek movies, unless they don't mind another box-office flop. But if two Star Trek movies in a row are a serious failure in Hollywood, that'll put even more of a dampener on future movies.

Chris Britton November 7, 2005 7:43 AM

That is a good point, after the success of First Contact and Insurrection, Nemisis was a faliure, but it was mainly because people boycotted it because of Rick bermans poor handling of things. I can't blame them. because i am angry at him for seemingly destroying Trek. But i did find it was a very good film. i believe a proper break is needed. And let Trek rest. Maybe when they make a new series, it can be during the 24th century. Moving on a few more years.

Ross Hendrie November 7, 2005 1:02 PM

I agree Trek needs a break. I mean look at how the new Doctor Who was recieved after a 25 year break. People would be awestruck by a new Trek series in 25 years time, assuming B&B have retired by then :P .

Danny Stewart November 7, 2005 2:57 PM

Except Doctor Who ended in 1989, and resumed in 2005.

2005 - 1989 = 16, not 25. :P

Ross Hendrie November 7, 2005 3:17 PM

Ah-hah, of course :P .

Chris Britton November 8, 2005 6:03 AM

Well I know what ross means, doctor Who had 16 years off, and look how well it was recived when ti came back. it was the same with the Next Generation, It was the most popular Trek show, and was well recieved. So a break can be a good idea. :)

Danny Stewart November 8, 2005 6:15 AM

Indeed it can, although many non-televised Doctor Who adventures were being pumped out with regularity over its sixteen years off.

Ross Hendrie November 8, 2005 12:11 PM

Maybe Trek could turn to books during the break?

Danny Stewart November 8, 2005 1:19 PM

I believe they're already doing that, to some extent.

Ross Hendrie November 8, 2005 4:39 PM

Excellent. Thought they should make books canon.

Bajoran Rogue November 8, 2005 5:04 PM

That would be quite an undertaking, the Star Wars EU, for example, has a few people whose jobs are to make sure that nothing in the EU contradicts either the films or another piece of the EU and they have a database which details Star Wars canon.
Perhaps if there were something like that for Star Trek set up while programs were still being made there wouldn't have been so big a controversy over Enterprise.

David Carter November 8, 2005 5:06 PM

I still think they should make a trek series but have it just scifi and not seem to be trek at first. That way ppl will see that it is trek at the end and the trek audience will grow cause they'll want to see more. My idea:
The series is on an alien planet. Its focused on a scientist with a family who is helping his planet research how to use machines to fix broken bones and heal wounds. Then as the series progresses, the scientist begins to have doubts that the project will work. The government eventually fully takes over the project (they were only funding it before) and the scientist protests, saying that there is a flaw with their project. And then, in the end of the series, the government tests the machines...and... they take over. In the end of the series....it turns out.... *cue suspense music* that this was the origin of the Borg!!!!
What do u guys think? I really think it would be an awesome series. Or movie if the series doesnt work (like so many other new scifi shows).

Ross Hendrie November 8, 2005 6:20 PM

Yeah I think that would be possible.

Btw on a random side note you guys have got to see this: http://anightatthehothberry.ytmnd.com/
Max showed me that earlier, it is so funny.

Danny Stewart November 8, 2005 9:27 PM

David, you've said that idea before... or some variant of it. I'm sure I've heard it from you though.

Chris Britton November 9, 2005 5:37 AM

Yeah, Although ti does soubnds like a good idea.

Ross, that was funny! :D

Danny Stewart November 9, 2005 6:57 AM

I haven't seen it yet but I'll check it out after school.

David Carter November 9, 2005 5:38 PM

"What is love" from Night at the Roxbury is like the best song ever! The movie is ok, but some parts are soo awesome b/c of that song. Me and a couple of my friends were going to go to the mall and have a guy, holding up speakers above his head, blasting it and then we'd all bang our heads at an angle like they do in the movie (for a sociology project where we had to break a social norm). We didnt get to do it though.

Danny Stewart November 9, 2005 7:57 PM

And that wasn't random at all. How does that relate to Star Trek 11?

David Carter November 9, 2005 9:10 PM

It relates to the link Ross provided that max showed him.

Danny Stewart November 10, 2005 7:01 AM

Oh. I haven't seen it yet, sorry.

Chris Britton November 10, 2005 12:33 PM

Ah, i see what he is on about.

Danny Stewart April 26, 2006 5:59 AM

Star Trek XI now in the works?
 
I happened to stumble across this fascinating article on Trek Today:

Quote:

Paramount Pictures announced today that Lost creator J.J. Abrams will co-write, produce and direct the eleventh Star Trek film, set for release in 2008. According to an article in the Daily Variety, the new film will be a prequel to the original Star Trek series, featuring younger versions of characters like James T. Kirk and Spock. The movie will chronicle events such as their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and their first mission into outer space.

The as-yet untitled new film will be written by Abrams together with Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci. Abrams is the creator of television series such as Felicity, Alias and Lost, and will soon be making his debut as a feature film director with Paramount's Mission Impossible: III. He's also written the scripts for films such as Regarding Henry and Armageddon. Kurtzman and Orci cooperated with Abrams on the MI: III script, and were previously part of the Alias writing staff, as well as writing the scripts for films such as The Island and the upcoming Transformers movie.

Besides Abrams, the film's producing team will include Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, who both also produce Lost. The Variety article made no mention of the fate of Rick Berman, who has been heading the Trek franchise for the past two decades.

According to Variety, the decision to produce a new Trek film is part of an effort by new Paramount head Brad Grey to try and raise the profile of Paramount by producing several "high-profile tentpole" movie, and having them developed by some of the most talented people in Hollywood.

The Starfleet Academy concept is an idea that has been floating around Paramount for several decades now. In February, former Trek movie producer Harve Bennett told the Trek Nation that as recently as two years ago he had a discussion with the then-current regime at Paramount about reviving the idea. Variety confirmed Bennett's statements, writing that several years ago Rick Berman was asked by Paramount to develop a Starfleet Academy feature together withJordan Kerner and Kerry McCluggage. Presumably this idea evolved into the Star Trek: The Beginning concept, which now appears dead in the water (story).

For the original story from Variety, please follow this link.
What are everyone's thoughts on this? Personally, it strikes me as a bit strange... but I hope it works to breathe new life into the Star Trek franchise. Note that the article states the movie will premiere in 2008, and that it makes no mention of Rick Berman's fate. We can only hope that this will be a good thing.

Ross Hendrie April 26, 2006 11:10 AM

Ah yes, I heard about this. Thankfully Rick Berman is not confirmed to be involved. I think this should be good, then again odd numbered Star Trek films have a tendency to do poorly.

Chris Britton April 26, 2006 3:19 PM

Berman will be executive producer i think,. but won;t have any real power. That can only be good, But this will be odd, Star Trek at the academy, i knew they wanted to do that before, it was the origianal plan for Star trek VI, since they will be in out space i am relived, Star trek on the stars is important, but will younger versions really be able to play the parts of classic characters, will they live up to expectations, as Ross rightly said, odd numbered films seem to do badly, although Star Trek: Insurrection was a deecent film. But i am keeping my fingers crossed.

Ross Hendrie April 26, 2006 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Britton
As Ross rightly said, odd numbered films seem to do badly, although Star Trek: Insurrection was a deecent film. But i am keeping my fingers crossed.

Indeed, I was thinking that, it seems to have reversed itself to even numbered films since Insurrection, as Nemesis was extremely shallow im sorry to say.

Danny Stewart April 26, 2006 3:58 PM

The whole odd-numbered thing is just superstition, and it's convenient that it's worked out like that so far, but you really can't use it to predict how good future films will be. And as far as Chris asked about new actors being able to live up to the old characters, it is a valid concern, but the casting process will be rigorous and I'm sure they'll get top-notch talent for each part. I wouldn't worry.

Also, Ross, I must defend Nemesis, as I liked it a lot and thought it was a very strong film in many ways.

Chris Britton April 27, 2006 2:23 AM

Nemisis was a good film, one of the best, i cried when Data died, the reason it did so badly was because many fans boycotted the film, they were fed up with Berman and Braga because of the state of 'Enterprise' i can't blame them to an extent, but argueable all TNG films did pretty well, im just hoping this film breathes new life into the franchise, otherwise it will crash badly.

Danny Stewart April 27, 2006 7:19 AM

Yes, agreed fully with Chris. It would indeed be disastrous if the franchise was dying, so they attempted to resurrect it, and then the new movie failed as well... it would take Star Trek a very long time to recover from that. So let's just hope it does well.

Chris Britton April 27, 2006 9:29 AM

personally i tihnk they should have done what they did with TOS, let is rest for a decade and show repeats around the world. If they prove popular then do another movie, Im just saying, what if it is too soon for a movie?

Danny Stewart April 27, 2006 9:47 AM

To be honest, I agree. I think it needs a longer break than this if they really want to make an impressive comeback.

Ross Hendrie April 27, 2006 10:23 AM

Nemesis was good in terms of the fighting sequences and the death of Data, but before that the plot was infinately shalow. The thelaron thing was badly introduced, and the Shinzon/Picard thing wasnt explored enough.

Danny Stewart April 27, 2006 12:31 PM

Maybe, but I still found the movie enjoyable, which is what it's supposed to be -- entertainment.

Danny Stewart April 27, 2006 2:14 PM

Looks like some good news for Berman haters!

Quote:

StarTrek.com has confirmed that longtime Star Trek executive producer Rick Berman, who was personally brought into the franchise by creator Gene Roddenberry and worked on all of the second-generation shows and movies, is not involved. "This project is separate from the previously rumored script developed by Eric Jendresen and overseen by Rick Berman," stated the official site. "The former Star Trek producer is not involved in this project."

Chris Britton April 27, 2006 3:16 PM

As i said, and good for all of us, heres hoping for a good film.

Danny Stewart April 28, 2006 9:06 AM

Things are probably going to go quiet soon because the movie's still a very long way away.

Chris Britton April 28, 2006 10:19 AM

understandable, as long as it does not have the same problems the Red Dwarf movie has had i am ok.

Ross Hendrie April 28, 2006 10:50 AM

Red Dwarf movie? Does it exist? lol

Chris Britton April 28, 2006 12:41 PM

Well, yes and no.

After series 8 concluded in 1999, Doug Naylor was hoping they could start filming, but there was problems, and since then, everytime he has tried to start it off, something stops him, mainly money, but the website has not been updated the movie page for years.

Danny Stewart April 29, 2006 3:51 PM

This is a Paramount production, and something as big as Star Trek will never suffer problems like that.


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