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Danny Stewart June 21, 2007 5:19 PM

The Master: Derek Jacobi or John Simm?
 
I saw a thread on OG that asked whether people preferred Derek Jacobi or John Simm as the Master just based on what we saw in "Utopia." I have to say, it's a damn good question. I liked Simm but Jacobi was just brilliant -- every line he uttered oozed "Master" and I certainly wouldn't have minded him staying. Was a bit depressed when he regenerated into John Simm. :confused:

Superkid11 June 21, 2007 6:04 PM

Jacobi was excellent but I do prefer Simm because of his Master's eccentric and silly but still evil attitude. :P
As I said before, Jacobi was great as an old Master, but Simm is a great young Master.

Chris Britton June 21, 2007 6:35 PM

Respectfully speaking, we have hardly seen John Simm, so i feel this is premature :) If you understand, I will post my opinion after this weeks episode. Although Derek Jacobi did set a very good standard to catch. But I feel comparisons are just too soon until an equal chance develops, last week was about Derek Jacobi, this will will be about John Simm, so lock and load :)

Danny Stewart June 21, 2007 7:58 PM

Chris, you're missing the point of the poll. The entire idea is just to judge them on what we saw in "Utopia" -- it even says so in the poll question.

Jez June 22, 2007 4:59 AM

I read an article by RTD. The whole point of casting John Simm as The Master was to strike a balance between him and DT. DT's Doctor has so much energy that they felt it was only fair to give him a Master with similar qualities......and a bigger sonic screwdriver. :D

Chris Britton June 22, 2007 6:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37745)
Chris, you're missing the point of the poll. The entire idea is just to judge them on what we saw in "Utopia" -- it even says so in the poll question.

Ok :( sorry, misread once again, based on that then Derek Jacobi must be the one to vote for so far, based on his preformance setting such a high standard

Hamster June 22, 2007 7:14 AM

As great as Jacobi's performance was, I'd have to go for John Simm. It's nice to see some good old-fashioned evil glee onscreen.

Ross Hendrie June 22, 2007 9:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamster (Post 37764)
As great as Jacobi's performance was, I'd have to go for John Simm. It's nice to see some good old-fashioned evil glee onscreen.

Agreed. John Simm.

Danny Stewart June 22, 2007 10:18 AM

We're still winning. :P

Ronnie Rowlands June 22, 2007 10:29 AM

methinks John Simm will be good. We need a funny master again, like Roger Delgado was. scene in The Sea Devils when he is watching TV, hilarious

Ben Dawson June 22, 2007 3:00 PM

I loved Jacobi, but I loved the look of the "young" Master, true, "old" was more sinister in personality, but "young" seemed to stroll by without a care, which I find even more sinister. So it's John Simm for me.

Ross Hendrie June 22, 2007 3:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37774)
We're still winning. :P

The gap narrows. :D

Danny Stewart June 22, 2007 6:55 PM

Clearly I will have to skew the poll. :P

Superkid11 June 22, 2007 7:08 PM

Clearly a Cyberman will have to introduce your under-the-belt zone to its foot if you do. :P
... wait, I take that back. That may hurt more than neccesary. :confused:

Chris Britton June 22, 2007 7:15 PM

Derek Jacobi at the moment mind you. But after todays episode i recommend we redo the poll and start again :)

Danny Stewart June 22, 2007 7:39 PM

No, that's not fair, because Jacobi won't be in that one so there's nothing new to compare!

Jez June 23, 2007 3:32 AM

"Based on what you have seen from the last two eps....."

Chris Britton June 23, 2007 8:18 AM

Exactly Danny, Jacobi had this episode to himself, and todays will show us what john simm can do, then we can do a proper comparison ;) They would have had more or less equal amounts of time then

Dalek104 June 23, 2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 37813)
Exactly Danny, Jacobi had this episode to himself, and todays will show us what john simm can do, then we can do a proper comparison ;) They would have had more or less equal amounts of time then

Derek Jacobi played the Master for only about five minutes in Utopia. Today's episode sees John Simm as the Master for the whole episode, so I would hardly say that's fair.

Danny Stewart June 23, 2007 1:33 PM

Exactly. That's an excellent point, James -- both Derek Jacobi and John Simm each played the Master for only about five minutes in Utopia, which makes it the perfect comparison episode!


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