Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
I'm not going to try and say that about Vista, because: 1. I don't want to use Vista. 2. I don't need to use Vista and 3. Vista really does suck and makes me want to kill small children.
However, I will say it about Linux. Because, frankly, most Linux builds run better in every new edition and are constantly being refined by a huge number of people. Similarly, they scale very well to different hardware.
There you go again, ignoring Linux.
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Most of my arguments are designed to specifically attack Windows-based PCs. I will give you that Linux is an excellent performer in this regard and I definitely support it.
Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
Out of curiosity, did you include the monitor and power supply in that price? If you did, subtract them. You could probably subtract the motherboard, too.
Don't forget that in the case of RAM or GPUs, in my PC I can just add more to the extent with which my PCI slots/Memory slots can fill. I don't have to buy brand new ones to upgrade, just add it on to my previously existing hardware. That means I can add another 7600GT, and through SLI I've just doubled my graphics output power for a fraction of the price a new card costs. So yeah, you can subtract at least 1.5gb of RAM and half the price of the GPU.
I'll give you the fact that the initial costs may be potentially similar, but over time the ability to upgrade your computer is a very useful and money-saving one.
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As a matter of fact I forgot to factor in the monitor and power supply.
Why would I want to subtract anything from the price? I calculated the price for an equal set of equipment from the start -- if I factor things out on the PC side, it will no longer be an equal comparison.
Also, I wish to again reiterate that the Mac Pro is literally just like a regular computer workstation. You can add in your own RAM and update the graphics card. You may even be able to swap out the CPU.
Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
No less of a reason than there is to upgrade a PC. If something needs more computing power, there's very little you can do to make it run optimally on a slower than recommended machine. This goes particularly for games, which is why I don't think Macs will ever become a real gaming platform.
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I would say that this is true for the most part. However times are beginning to change for Apple, and as more people consider moving to Macs, Apple will start to consider the desires of gamers just as much as other users. I'm comfortable with my choice even as it is right now, and I know that things will only get better for gaming Mac users given time.
Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
Try the Crysis demo  . |
Sorry, no Intel processor means no Intel games. I'm sure it would run great if I had an Intel processor in there though.
Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
I can't think of any reason why I'd want to use a 9-year-old computer, though, except as a server, which means all it's going to do is sit there pushing data.
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Well, my dad paid something like $1200 for it when it first came out. It still works, it'll still do many basic tasks, so why throw it away? If it still has
any use at all it doesn't make sense to get rid of it.
Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
Except for the whole run's every program anyone could ever want and plays games parts.
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*sigh*
I feel like a broken record here. I don't
want to repeat myself, but you ignore me so much that you leave me with little choice.
First of all, PCs do not run every program anyone could ever want. I would be lost without being able to make music in Logic, and I have come to rely on Final Cut for editing videos as well. The iLife suite is largely beneficial to what I do (and no similar alternative exists for PC), as well as dozens of other little pieces of Mac software which I simply cannot replace on Windows.
And second of all, for science's sake, SHUT UP ABOUT GAMES ALREADY.
MACS. PLAY. GAMES.
SHUT UP! The fact that you keep playing that card is not only tedious, it's worthless.
Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
Actually, for future reference, I define bullshit as 'parroting everything a corporation, religious or political organization's marketing/PR department says'. Nice guess though, you can have a star.
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Thank you for the star, but I do not relay the words of any marketing or PR department. I relay my own experiences. I will be sure to put this star up on my wall just the same, though.
Originally Posted by Recurring Villain
Considering I've been using computers since I was 5 years old, I think the margin between us isn't going to be as wide as you'd like to think it should be.
I like it when people get personal during internet arguments, though. It demonstrates they're either; a. running out of ammo or b. outright losing. It's a pity, really. The first half of your post was almost civil.
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Funny, I was just about to say the same thing about you. You attacked my position and experience, so I responded with a similar critique of yours. And for the record, I have been using computers since age 2 in 1990. I only counted the years I have been actively working for my dad, just to be nice and give you a fair head start.
Also, my dad credits me with being able to hack into and reconfigure a Novell server on multiple occasions at age 2. I don't honestly remember this myself, but I have no reason to believe he is lying.