Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
That's funny, because I seem to remember you praising both of them to the stars when they aired. Gridlock was fast, and great fun, especially with the *Macra coming back, and opened up the story arc wonderfully. Utopia was excellent, especially with that brilliant performance by Jacobi. Just because you hated Last of the Time Lords doesn't mean you have to suddenly go around saying "oh yes, that was ok I suppose. It'll do." You loved them before the finale and this episode shouldn't change your opinion on the others.
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Nope. I enjoyed them after I first saw them (as with most of the new series), but upon repeat viewings the flaws really start to shine through and become terribly grating. Utopia is still a fairly good episode. Jacobi is the highlight. Upon reflection, I would give Gridlock about a 6.5 out of 10, and Utopia an 8 out of 10.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
I was also laughing out loud after reading you say "Having lived with it for 4 months." As though it's been breathing down my neck, watching my DVDs, eating my food, sleeping in my bed and taking over my house to the extent I wanted to throw it out.
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It nags at my soul enough to feel like that's exactly what it's done.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
And do you really apologise to the people who watch it?
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Yes, I have apologized to multiple people after it was over.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
Honestly, you describe it as a form of torture! I think the casual viewer isn't going to be left scarred for life having seen it. They're not going to consider cutting all ties with you because of it. And if it really is like being streched on a rack with electrodes on your nipples while a fat gay man in a leather mask whips you with a wet towel with pins on it, why BOTHER sharing it in the first place?
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Because they have to be caught up on the new series. We can't just skip it and pretend like it never happened. Also, then I get to discuss with them exactly how bad it was.