Originally Posted by Danny Stewart
I would say that's more Torchwood without Owen...
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Torchwood without both of them is just an American guy in Cardiff with a few whiny Welsh nubcakes. The group they had there was special because there was someone in there everyone could relate with. I liked Tosh because she was an antisocial geek (just like a certain forum troll) living amongst high-rolling, time-travelling action hero people, and it was interesting because she was
different to them, but still capable of handling herself in her own way. If they replace her with Martha, then we lose that, and we get another sexed-up stereotype.
I liked Owen because he saw things in a rather nihilistic way (again, like a certain forum troll). I could relate to him because shit happened to him, his life was so far from perfect, he was prepared to die if he had to. If they replace him with John, we get another time-travelling, bisexual action hero.
That's why I'm pissed. They killed off the least generic characters they had.
Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
Tosh is more special than Owen.
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You'll probably be happy to hear that Naoko Mori is still considering coming back for S3 (apparently). As for Mr. Gorman, I don't know. But it would be a bit of a stretch for them to bring Owen back
again, although like I said, I don't really care how much of a stretch it is, as long as they bring them back...