Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
There's, your list, Kody. Your serve.
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*salute*
My main issue for this is one I'm probably going to keep repeating, so I apologize if I sound like a broken record, is is not my intent. But. The story served no purpose and it was all 'fixed' in the end ala' reset button style.
No lasting effects, unless Donna is really upset about it. Rose could have come back just fine without any of that happening.
The regeneration failing was a sign of a lacking imagination in my eyes as well. He should have regenerated as soon as they fished him out of the water. "Not making it out in time." Seemed very shoehorned in.
Rose was written poorly, in my eyes. She's not a bimbo and not a genius, but somewhere in between. The line that pissed me off was the whole..
Rose: It's in a state of flux.
Donna: What does that MEAN?!
Rose: I don't know! *silly grin* Sounds like something the Doctor would say!
That pissed me off because Rose should be able to grasp the simple concept of something being in flux and wouldn't be so silly about it all. The really 'techno babble' moments she had didn't fit either. It's like they are trying to turn her into a version of the Doctor and that really doesn't work for me.
Then at the end, how is "Bad Wolf" plastered over everything? I know what she did in the parting of ways, but did she see this far into the future and get it all setup and waiting for the Doctor?
I'm also a little tired and bored of "The Doctor is God" and every companion is the most important person in all of creation (even if they are unemployed, a medical student, or an office-worker). And everything's measured in billions and zillions. It's this insane over-the-topness that grates. Which is why I liked Midnight, where the Doctor was more vulnerable and mortal - if an unpredictable genius with a knack for survival.
Even Moffat and Tennant have said he's like a normal guy, with insane wits that can talk his way through or out of anything, he's not a god.
Like many other people we've grown up with the idea of post nuclear holocaust - Survivors, The Last Train, Threads etc - and so the events in 'Turn Left' were not so very novel or shocking. And there was a thread of unreality through it all - Donna winning the raffle, minor characters being able to see the Trickster on her back, standing outside and gawping at a nuclear explosion, the load of 'FOTD' alt-world editing jumps from situation to situation, Rose's weirdness. They all served to distance me from getting involved, specially in comparison with 'Midnight' which absolutely glued me to the screen.
Oh, last but not least, I suppose it's a minor thing and not related to RTD or the script. But DAMN that bettle sucked. Seriously. It looked like the props crew picked it up from a local toy shop on the way to the set. In this day and age you should be able to get something a little bit better.
You'll notice I used 'in my eyes' or 'in my opinion' a lot, the reason for that annoying repetitiveness is because this is -my- personal opinion. Might not be right, but this is what the episode was to me and why I seem so vehemently against it.
Hopefully that offers some insight.
The good things about this was the acting, Wilf stole the stage, CT had some 'wow' moments and Tennant at the end when he was told 'Bad Wolf' once again showed us how much can be conveyed with a simple look.
Oh, hearing the cloister bell again rocked as well.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
My only other criticism is that we didn't know much of the villain.
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Out of curiosity, did you or anyone else tie this to SJA? It's the name of that faceless guy that erased her in 'Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane'. I thought that was a cool crossover at least.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
and hey, did anyone notice that the fortune teller was Chantho from Utopia?
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Really? I need to go watch her again, completely missed that.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
This story was dark and frightening, so I don't understand... isn't this what the Doctor Who fans want, after all?
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It is, but in my personal opinion it served no purpose, was all 'fixed' in the end and felt extremely shoddy. :\
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands
I challenge anybody try and find me an old school episode with this much realism and bleakness and accuracy of our behavior.
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I still haven't seen enough to think of something off hand, maybe Danny or another member can point out an example.