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Old August 19, 2007, 6:17 AM
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VST Plugin

I was not sure exactly where to put this so I put it here. This was a quick VST plugin that I made, solely to recreate the Doctor Who Melody 1 instrument. As such, it has no actual controls, but it works fine. It might be quite useful if you want to make a quick melody sound for some reason.

Unfortunately, I can't post it, as my website is down and as this forum doesn't allow .DLL files, or .ZIP files larger than 97kb.

I've hosted it on mediafire for the time being.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1jkmoymmi7z
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Old August 19, 2007, 12:16 PM
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Sounds very interesting! I'd love to try it out but unfortunately Mac VST is a different format from PC VST (a .vst file versus a .dll file) so I can't try it out on my computer. I'll let someone equally well-versed in the Doctor Who theme try it out and report back to me with their opinion (i.e. Pete).
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Old August 19, 2007, 12:30 PM
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I'll see if I can convert it into a PC Vst file. Of course, I will have no way of knowing if it works or not. When I was last using Logic on a Mac, I was sure that it was able to use PC VST plugins, somehow or another, but I think a few of them didn't work.

And aren't Mac's PC's nowdays?
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Old August 19, 2007, 4:45 PM
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I'll see if I can convert it into a PC Vst file. Of course, I will have no way of knowing if it works or not. When I was last using Logic on a Mac, I was sure that it was able to use PC VST plugins, somehow or another, but I think a few of them didn't work.
Nope. Logic Pro supports VST synths, Logic Express does not. But the VSTs that Logic uses are Mac VSTs, which are .vst files. They go in /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VSTs and they are most definitely .vst files -- .dll files don't work.

They're still VSTs, though, just in a different wrapper.

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And aren't Mac's PC's nowdays?
Not really... just because they have Intel processors doesn't make them PCs. They're still exclusive Apple hardware, and they still run Mac OS X. That's my criteria... they're still Macs.
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They're still exclusive Apple hardware, and they still run Mac OS X...
Don't forget being overpriced...

I'll try this plugin out in FL Studio. I'm intrigued.

EDIT: Assuming this is from the Derbyshire theme, it sort of sounds like it, but unless I'm doing something wrong, not that much. The notes seem to get quieter the higher the pitch becomes. Rather odd. Either way, however, admirable effort in making a VST plugin.

EDIT 2: Two suggestions: 1: I'd suggest removing the reverb from it. I imagine most people are perfectly capable of adding that themselves. 2: Make the pitch bend between notes (I'm pretty sure the theme does this.).
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Assuming this is from the Derbyshire theme, it sort of sounds like it, but unless I'm doing something wrong, not that much. The notes seem to get quieter the higher the pitch becomes. Rather odd. Either way, however, admirable effort in making a VST plugin.
It's not meant to be an exact replica of the Derbyshire theme, more of a general oo-ee-oo type instrument. The quieter the higher the pitch becomes is probably a by product of my messy and disorganized coding and design.

Two suggestions: 1: I'd suggest removing the reverb from it. I imagine most people are perfectly capable of adding that themselves. 2: Make the pitch bend between notes (I'm pretty sure the theme does this.).
1: Do you mean the echo? Ok, I'll remove that. It's still stuck in my mind that when I used to make VST plugins for Cubasis (ah, rusty old Cubasis) that I had to add the effects built into the generator, as Cubasis didn't support effects from VST plugins. 2: It does pitch bend between notes, but you have to hold the two notes together, or if you are working on a piano roll, make the notes overlap.

And aren't Mac's PC's nowdays?
I was attempting to make a satirical comment on the "Oh well our iMacs can run Windows now so you only ever need one computer." argument. It didn't work.

Well it seems that there's no way for me to save it as a VST file, unless theres a Mac version of Synthedit which will open .SE1 files and save them as a .VST. I've done some research, and as far as I can see, converting a .DLL to a .VST is impossible, as a VST file just contains memory addresses and data regarding the tone generation and the panel settings of the Synth, but a DLL file is more close to an EXE file, and it could run on its own without a host application, but most of it would be faulty because certain memory addresses would be missing.

Damn Windows. That's it, I'm using Ubuntu now. In protest. Even though it's incompatible with my modem.
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Don't forget being overpriced...
You get what you pay for.

In this case, a pile of awesome.

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I was attempting to make a satirical comment on the "Oh well our iMacs can run Windows now so you only ever need one computer." argument. It didn't work.


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Well it seems that there's no way for me to save it as a VST file, unless theres a Mac version of Synthedit which will open .SE1 files and save them as a .VST. I've done some research, and as far as I can see, converting a .DLL to a .VST is impossible, as a VST file just contains memory addresses and data regarding the tone generation and the panel settings of the Synth, but a DLL file is more close to an EXE file, and it could run on its own without a host application, but most of it would be faulty because certain memory addresses would be missing.
That's alright. Tom sent me a clip of it... sounds good, just as a general-purpose melody instrument. I may even find a use for it! Assuming I can get it working in Logic, that is. Meh.

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Damn Windows. That's it, I'm using Ubuntu now. In protest. Even though it's incompatible with my modem.
Good for you. Use Linux for now and then save up for a Mac.
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Always the Apple spokesperson

Haha. Yup.
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