Doctor Who 4x04 - "The Sontaran Stratagem" - Page 2

Josef Kenny · #21 April 27, 2008, 11:53 AM

I can do spoilers!

[SPOILER="RTD's big plan"]The Doctor dies, badly composited gas comes out of his mouth and revives the charred bones of the Master, who regenerates into a snowman Adipose who travels the universe in a TARDIS disguised as a child's scooter.[/SPOILER]

Danny Stewart · #22 April 27, 2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Jamie Minty

Anyway never mind. Its not worth its own thread.

Feel free to post it anyway.

Originally Posted by Rat Souffle

I can do spoilers!

[SPOILER="RTD's big plan"]The Doctor dies, badly composited gas comes out of his mouth and revives the charred bones of the Master, who regenerates into a snowman Adipose who travels the universe in a TARDIS disguised as a child's scooter.[/SPOILER]

The sad part is, RTD's great master plan, which probably had way more time and thought put into it than what you just wrote, will probably end up sounding about as lame.

Jamie Minty · #23 April 27, 2008, 1:41 PM

[SPOILER="Martha"]Martha will be in The Doctor's Daughter apparently. Hopefully she goes home after and then her next 2 episodes of the series will be the finale.[/SPOILER]

They changed the theme again. I think last nights was the best, however it needed a little bit more bass.

It would be good at the end of the Series to get all the themes and place them on top of each other so its a mix of every theme.

Josef Kenny · #24 April 27, 2008, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rhino

It would be good at the end of the Series to get all the themes and place them on top of each other so its a mix of every theme.

I bet that's what Chuzzle will do for the finale. Gawd, imagine the chorusing, and the sort of dull echo effect from the fact that they're all at different speeds...

Danny Stewart · #25 April 27, 2008, 3:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jamie Minty

[SPOILER="Martha"]Martha will be in The Doctor's Daughter apparently. Hopefully she goes home after and then her next 2 episodes of the series will be the finale.[/SPOILER]

This is a spoiler for The Doctor's Daughter, not Martha. Martha is a character. You cannot spoil a character -- at least not outside the show.

Additionally, I really don't think this is a spoiler at all. It's a casting issue. This stuff is generally known months beforehand. (I certainly knew it for a few weeks now...)

Originally Posted by Jamie Minty

They changed the theme again. I think last nights was the best, however it needed a little bit more bass.

The opening consistently doesn't have enough bass.

Needs moar bass boom wallop.

Originally Posted by Jamie Minty

It would be good at the end of the Series to get all the themes and place them on top of each other so its a mix of every theme.

No please.

Jamie Minty · #26 April 27, 2008, 4:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart

This is a spoiler for The Doctor's Daughter, not Martha. Martha is a character. You cannot spoil a character -- at least not outside the show.

Additionally, I really don't think this is a spoiler at all. It's a casting issue. This stuff is generally known months beforehand. (I certainly knew it for a few weeks now...)

Really. I had no idea. I put in spoilers in case some people thought there was a possibility she died next week (obvious she won't) but some people are massive spoilerphobes.

MI7 · #27 April 27, 2008, 4:32 PM

Really loved that, definitely a 9/10 from me. Only criticism is that Commander Skorr looked and sounded goofy, especially compared to the awesomeness of General Staal.

Also, I don't think they changed the theme this time, other than the piss poor editing of the closing theme...?

Kody · #28 April 27, 2008, 5:05 PM

Bloody loved it, that ending was really well done and gripping. With the Doctor seeming so helpless as everything goes off, standing in the middle of a smoke filled street, the music building as the Sontaran's chant and launch their one man pods.

Brilliant, just brilliant. Acting, makeup, writing, everything.. this is what Doctor Who is supposed to be like. The references to past episodes were done in a good way, so was the Donna / Martha and Donna's Family interaction. (Love Wilf!)

It just felt so.. classic Who. Especially when Stall appears and does the whole introduction, GLEE.

Only two quibbles from me this time though..

Originally Posted by MI7

Only criticism is that Commander Skorr looked and sounded goofy, especially compared to the awesomeness of General Staal.

Agreed, that was a bit confusing.

Also, I will personally kill the next character in doctor who that says 'Deadlocked'. Then again, I suppose if you are an invading alien force and want to make damn sure NOTHING stops your plan, deadlock is the best option.

Can't wait for next weeks, hope it is just as awesome, if not more so.

Jamie Minty · #29 April 27, 2008, 5:23 PM

Staal's beard made me laugh inside.

Josef Kenny · #30 April 28, 2008, 9:58 AM

Originally Posted by Jamie

Staal's beard made me laugh inside.

Staal's beard made me laugh outside.

Danny Stewart · #31 April 28, 2008, 10:13 AM

Sontaran facial hair has been there since the Sontarans were introduced.

Jamie Minty · #32 April 28, 2008, 1:52 PM

ZOMG I really have been missing a lot.

The Sontarans in the Two Doctors look a bit ... melted.

Ross Hendrie · #33 April 28, 2008, 3:38 PM

Bloody marvellous. 9/10.

Although, I did notice that they did go ahead and changed UNIT to an abbreviation for "Unified Intelligence Taskforce".

Jamie Minty · #34 April 28, 2008, 4:03 PM

The UN made them cause they are spoil sports

Danny Stewart · #35 April 28, 2008, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

Although, I did notice that they did go ahead and changed UNIT to an abbreviation for "Unified Intelligence Taskforce".

This was posted here by BritCanuck a few weeks ago.

Originally Posted by Jamie Minty

The UN made them cause they are spoil sports

Incorrect. This was RTD's decision. Essentially, the BBC got in some trouble for making a fake UNIT web site during series one. RTD wanted to avoid possible further trouble with fans trying to make web sites for a non-existent UN organization, so to avoid that, he changed the name. If he wanted to, he could have kept it the same and there is nothing the UN could have done about it. The decision to change it was his alone.

Chris Britton · #36 April 29, 2008, 4:16 AM

I had to give this an 8/10 rating, it was a solid episode and was some good viewing, acting was excellent and it was excellent to see Martha back, especially since there was no arguing, which as what i feared. the Sontaran's were great to see again too. Christopher Ryan was pretty much unrecognizable as Staal, and Donna is definately becoming one of the best written characters around. Next weeks should be an exciting finale.

Ronnie Rowlands · #37 April 29, 2008, 7:23 AM

Unrecognizable?

I still think his voice is recognizable! See this clip for example in which he played Dave Hedgehog, (non-Bottom fans, he is on the far left hand side of the couch).

+ YouTube Video

"What do you think Medieval people did before telly?"

"Well they had their tea, didn't they?" -- I still laugh at this

Ross Hendrie · #38 April 29, 2008, 4:56 PM

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart

This was posted here by BritCanuck a few weeks ago.

Yeah I know im just commenting on how they decided to actually go ahead with it.

Danny Stewart · #39 April 29, 2008, 6:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

Yeah I know im just commenting on how they decided to actually go ahead with it.

So was he, I'm pretty sure.

Jamie Minty · #40 April 30, 2008, 11:59 AM

Watching the BBC website clip for Poison Sky I think it looks great.

I really think Skorr is a great character (didn't like him that much at first) and Murray Gold picked the best music for that scene.

Looks like there will be a lot of fighting.

And Liz Sladen is in Confidential!