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April 13, 2008, 2:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Dawson
The Ood episode is set before "The Impossible Planet", and features their origin, so their planet probably is gone, but that's the magic of time travel.
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But the episode is called Planet Of the Ood
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April 13, 2008, 2:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
Glad to hear you don't think its shit!
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I think you're missing my point. It's obvious that The Fires of Pompeii wasn't shit -- it's proper Doctor Who. A bit of scariness, a moral dilemma, something to make you think. My point is that it should come as no surprise to you that I enjoyed The Fires of Pompeii, because it didn't suck. Partners in Crime, on the other hand, was an affront to Doctor Who.
Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
But the episode is called Planet Of the Ood
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What is it with point-missing today? He's saying from the perspective of The Impossible Planet (meaning that being the present), the Ood home planet is gone. In Planet of the Ood, it takes place prior to the events of The Impossible Planet, so their planet is still around.
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April 13, 2008, 3:40 PM
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Thank you Danny for not giving up yet. Glad you liked this episode. Think you may have overreacted after not enjoying last weeks.  (But I could be thinking wrong.)
When does it say "She's coming back"? I missed it on first viewing. I'll watch it back sometime this week.
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April 13, 2008, 4:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stutomo
Thank you Danny for not giving up yet. Glad you liked this episode. Think you may have overreacted after not enjoying last weeks. (But I could be thinking wrong.) |
It was far more than "not enjoying" it. I found it disgusting and insulting, and I don't think giving up on the show entirely would have been that much of an overreaction. I love Doctor Who too much to watch this sort of thing done to it. But then I wouldn't be giving other, more talented writers a chance (like James Moran), who demonstrate that people can still do proper Doctor Who if they try. It's only Russell T Davies who I'm done with.
Originally Posted by stutomo
When does it say "She's coming back"? I missed it on first viewing. I'll watch it back sometime this week.
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Lucius says it to the Doctor, shortly after his "Man from Gallifrey" bit.
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April 13, 2008, 4:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart
Lucius says it to the Doctor, shortly after his "Man from Gallifrey" bit.
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Thanks for that. I'm about to watch it again.
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April 13, 2008, 4:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stutomo
Thanks for that. I'm about to watch it again.
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Enjoy. I've seen it three times already, with more to come throughout the week. 
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Alright, possibly call me late to the party if everyone else noticed this before me, but..
After watching it again to great enjoyment, I noticed how the whole little bit with the high priestess was pretty much copy and paste from the first episode.
They lost their home planet, just lost it.
The dialogue was almost the same in PiC if I remember correctly.
Is this some subtle story arc? Planets are vanishing?
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April 13, 2008, 4:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart
I think you're missing my point. It's obvious that The Fires of Pompeii wasn't shit -- it's proper Doctor Who. A bit of scariness, a moral dilemma, something to make you think. My point is that it should come as no surprise to you that I enjoyed The Fires of Pompeii, because it didn't suck. Partners in Crime, on the other hand, was an affront to Doctor Who.
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Well theres plenty of people on the OG forums who hated it. I thought that you might hate the Water Pistol and Celtic bit. And therefore rate down the episode!
Originally Posted by Danny Stewart
What is it with point-missing today? He's saying from the perspective of The Impossible Planet (meaning that being the present), the Ood home planet is gone. In Planet of the Ood, it takes place prior to the events of The Impossible Planet, so their planet is still around.
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Oh I didn't know he meant it like that! Is their planet gone in Impossible Planet or is it just an assumption?
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April 13, 2008, 4:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Larren
Alright, possibly call me late to the party if everyone else noticed this before me, but..
After watching it again to great enjoyment, I noticed how the whole little bit with the high priestess was pretty much copy and paste from the first episode.
They lost their home planet, just lost it.
The dialogue was almost the same in PiC if I remember correctly.
Is this some subtle story arc? Planets are vanishing?
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Possibly but the Shadow Proclamation is mentioned again so maybe there is a link between them!
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April 13, 2008, 7:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
Well theres plenty of people on the OG forums who hated it. I thought that you might hate the Water Pistol and Celtic bit. And therefore rate down the episode!
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Don't make assumptions about people's opinions. The Celtic thing didn't bother me at all, and I adored the water pistol stuff. Very in keeping with the old series.
Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
Oh I didn't know he meant it like that! Is their planet gone in Impossible Planet or is it just an assumption?
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I believe it's just an assumption, but to be honest I haven't watched it lately enough to recall.
Originally Posted by Larren
After watching it again to great enjoyment, I noticed how the whole little bit with the high priestess was pretty much copy and paste from the first episode. They lost their home planet, just lost it. The dialogue was almost the same in PiC if I remember correctly. Is this some subtle story arc? Planets are vanishing?
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Frankly I didn't notice this until it was pointed out to me, and I've watched it three times. I think it was someone here who accused them of being annoyingly obvious about this clear "planets vanishing" storyline, and while the new series has certainly used the sledgehammer treatment before on ongoing story arcs (Bad Wolf for instance), I think they're being subtle enough if I didn't notice it on my own after three viewings. I'm curious enough to see more, and I certainly don't feel like I'm having this rammed down my throat -- at least not yet. Admittedly it took most of series two for Torchwood to get annoying and until "Bad Wolf" to feel that way about the first series. So let's just see where they go with it.
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April 14, 2008, 5:45 AM
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April 14, 2008, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart
Don't make assumptions about people's opinions. The Celtic thing didn't bother me at all, and I adored the water pistol stuff. Very in keeping with the old series.
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The Water Pistol seemed very silly to me (but I liked it) and I thought it was something that Classic fans would pick up on and not like (I've seen a few who have).
I just said I'm pleased to hear you liked it! Is that a bad thing?
Originally Posted by Danny Stewart
I believe it's just an assumption, but to be honest I haven't watched it lately enough to recall.
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Maybe in Planet of the Ood we will see the planet disappear ... just a thought.
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April 14, 2008, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
The Water Pistol seemed very silly to me (but I liked it) and I thought it was something that Classic fans would pick up on and not like (I've seen a few who have).
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It wasn't silly at all. The Doctor is known to have random stuff in his pockets at all times. That's actually something that's been annoying me about the new series -- nowhere near enough random crap in the Doctor's pockets. In "The End of the World" when he was asked to provide a gift, he felt through his pockets and had nothing. That just annoyed me. Nice to see the random crap being brought back. A fully loaded water pistol seems perfectly in keeping with that idea.
Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
I just said I'm pleased to hear you liked it! Is that a bad thing?
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Not really. It was more the whole assumption about me not liking it thing which was such a bad thing.
Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
Maybe in Planet of the Ood we will see the planet disappear ... just a thought.
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Maybe.
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April 14, 2008, 11:30 AM
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Rather good show this week! 9/10
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What would be even more random would be one of those trick camera that shoot water.
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There is still a lot of work to be done on the series, like getting rid of RTD, but this episode was definately a great step in the right direction. This weeks should be fantastic. I've bumped my grade for this up upon watching the episode again. I paid mroe attention, kudos going to the moral dilemmas The Doctor and Donna go through during the whole episode.
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April 14, 2008, 1:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart
It wasn't silly at all. The Doctor is known to have random stuff in his pockets at all times. That's actually something that's been annoying me about the new series -- nowhere near enough random crap in the Doctor's pockets. In "The End of the World" when he was asked to provide a gift, he felt through his pockets and had nothing. That just annoyed me. Nice to see the random crap being brought back. A fully loaded water pistol seems perfectly in keeping with that idea.
Not really. It was more the whole assumption about me not liking it thing which was such a bad thing.
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Well I did think that the Water Pistol might be a bit Tom Baker-ish. What other stuff has the Doctor had in his pockets. There could be a list somewhere ... anyway I know about the jellybabies and of course the celery stick!
I'll make sure I assume no more because if you assume you make ... well you all know it 
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Now he just needs to pull some Jelly Babies again and it'll be perfect.
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April 14, 2008, 1:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Superkid11
Now he just needs to pull some Jelly Babies again and it'll be perfect.
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He can't. The Master stole them!
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April 14, 2008, 1:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie Minty
He can't. The Master stole them!
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He could have easily taken them back at the end of LoTL.
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