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Old October 10, 2007, 12:08 PM
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Yes yes yes hooray for macs, boo to Microsoft. Kill all the Microsoft users. They are scum and Microsoft is a retard. How about everyone tones it down a bit and stops linking Microsoft to every bad thing in the world?
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Old October 10, 2007, 1:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny
Roxio just checks the internet to see if there are any updates available.
Still, when it comes to piracy I want to be careful.

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Nope, that's completely untrue. If you go to the store and buy a copy of Windows XP, you are buying one license. One license is used up on each computer you install it on. That doesn't mean you can't install it on multiple computers anyway, but that's not what Microsoft intends and it will likely not activate properly.
Crud. Oh well, I'm not planning on getting rid of the CD I burnt. I hid it in a Gamecube box up in the attic. I sure hope I remember it...
I may wind up installing the legit one then secretly uninstalling it and installing the downloaded one.




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Yes yes yes hooray for macs, boo to Microsoft. Kill all the Microsoft users. They are scum and Microsoft is a retard. How about everyone tones it down a bit and stops linking Microsoft to every bad thing in the world?
Ronnie's right. It was funny for a while but gimme a break.

I actually had doubts about the iMac until I was more informed...
Now I'm drooling over them and can't wait til December to get one.

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Old October 10, 2007, 1:03 PM
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I find it strange that everyone "hates" to admit it when they agree with me. It's quite hurtful really.
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Old October 10, 2007, 1:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands View Post
I find it strange that everyone "hates" to admit it when they agree with me. It's quite hurtful really.
You're right, I take it back entirely. I just flat agree. It was kind of funny for a while but seriously.
It just enforces the stereotype that RV is convinced about.

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Old October 10, 2007, 1:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands View Post
Yes yes yes hooray for macs, boo to Microsoft. Kill all the Microsoft users. They are scum and Microsoft is a retard. How about everyone tones it down a bit and stops linking Microsoft to every bad thing in the world?
Ignorance is bliss, eh, Ronnie?

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Crud. Oh well, I'm not planning on getting rid of the CD I burnt. I hid it in a Gamecube box up in the attic. I sure hope I remember it...
I may wind up installing the legit one then secretly uninstalling it and installing the downloaded one.
If I were to comment, I would say "unjustified paranoia alert" again.

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Ronnie's right. It was funny for a while but gimme a break.
1) Ronnie's wrong.
2) It's not meant to be funny; it's true.

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I actually had doubts about the iMac until I was more informed...
Now I'm drooling over them and can't wait til December to get one.
You'll love it.

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It just enforces the stereotype that RV is convinced about.
I don't say what I say out of blind love for Apple, nor do I say it out of blind hatred for Microsoft (although it is closer to the latter than the former). I say what I say because I'm well informed about both Microsoft and Apple, and I am seriously afraid of where Microsoft is heading.

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Old October 10, 2007, 1:55 PM
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If I were to comment, I would say "unjustified paranoia alert" again.
It's not as unjustified as you think. My mom and dad are pretty anti-piracy. Yeah, they were cool with me downloading Doctor Who but this would set them off. The CD is pretty obviously what it is.
Seeing as they're paying for the computer I'm not gonna set them off.
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Old October 10, 2007, 2:28 PM
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I say what I say because I'm well informed about both Microsoft and Apple, and I am seriously afraid of where Microsoft is heading.
Coffee tables?
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Old October 10, 2007, 2:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Superkid11 View Post
It's not as unjustified as you think. My mom and dad are pretty anti-piracy. Yeah, they were cool with me downloading Doctor Who but this would set them off. The CD is pretty obviously what it is.
Seeing as they're paying for the computer I'm not gonna set them off.
Heh. That's quite a contrast to my house. My dad asks me to download software for him off the internet. In fact, when I want to go out and buy software legitimately, he yells at me for wasting money. "Why would you spend so much money on that when you can just download it?" Logic Studio being the primary example of that.

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Coffee tables?
I'm more concerned about the software that said coffee tables will run.
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Old October 10, 2007, 2:40 PM
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Microsoft Table Surface Vista? Yeah, you never know when it's going to freeze up and loose its tangibility.

I'm more worried about them getting into Coffee makers.
"Microsoft Caffinerun deluxe K9P"
*shudder*
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Old October 10, 2007, 3:58 PM
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Microsoft Table Surface Vista? Yeah, you never know when it's going to freeze up and loose its tangibility.

I'm more worried about them getting into Coffee makers.
"Microsoft Caffinerun deluxe K9P"
*shudder*
No, actually we're referring to a real Microsoft product called Surface: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/
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Old October 10, 2007, 4:02 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth Danny, I didn't say that.

(Check your quote tagging a few posts back )
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Old October 10, 2007, 4:14 PM
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Lol yeah I said that last thing.

Woah... I didn't know about Surface... looks kinda neat to be honest.
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Old October 11, 2007, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Superkid11 View Post
Woah... I didn't know about Surface... looks kinda neat to be honest.
Looks gimmicky and stupid, like most Microsoft products.

This video puts it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY
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Old October 11, 2007, 2:54 AM
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I say what I say because I'm well informed about both Microsoft and Apple...
I find that oh so very hard to believe. "Well informed" people know where to source good hardware for cheap and to build their computers from scratch.

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I am seriously afraid of where Microsoft is heading.
What, nowhere in particular? They're a technology company, not a necessities provider; if they **** things up they go out of business and someone else will take their place, either Apple or the Open Source movement. They make good things, and they make bad things. It's the consumers responsibility to not be a brand-worshipping ****tard and buy something just because they like the name of it's provider. View the market as competing products, not companies. Take the side of a good product, not what you believe to be a good company, because no company gives two shits about you. They just care about how they can convince you to give them as much money as possible.

Right now Microsoft have created the best value console of this generation because they're the underdog in the market. I, however, most certainly will not be buying the console they make if or when they're in a position like Sony was post PS3, when leveraging brand power comes first and quality comes second (similar to how Apple has begun to act in regards to their iPod music player), because I don't give two shits about the Microsoft or Xbox brand, I just want to play good ****ing games for as cheap as possible.

And, oddly enough, my Xbox hasn't RRoD'd yet. I must be in the extreme minority, though, right? Because every Xbox360 overheats. My Xbox still working is a fluke. I guess the Microsoft angel is watching over me, because I don't have any problems with Windows either. I should go buy a lottery ticket, eh?

Science forbid that there might, say, be a vocal minority on the internet.

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Looks gimmicky and stupid, like most Microsoft products.
Look at the concept, not the brand. If Microsoft develops this, competitors will develop their own, so it's not worth dismissing just because Microsoft developed it. As a concept, this could turn out very well. Think of the applications for it: You could apply this not only to coffee tables but desks and wall panels. I'd love to have a desk I could draw on, see what I was drawing and have that on my monitor as well. Sure would beat shitty drawing tablets.

It would also take the concept of the object-oriented interface to the max, creating an interface that quite literally any idiot could use. For the young, the old and especially the disabled this would be a huge advantage.

I bet if Apple came up with the idea, though, you'd think it was the second coming, amirite?
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Old October 11, 2007, 3:15 AM
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I find that oh so very hard to believe. "Well informed" people know where to source good hardware for cheap and to build their computers from scratch.
I know both of these things.

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What, nowhere in particular? They're a technology company, not a necessities provider; if they **** things up they go out of business and someone else will take their place, either Apple or the Open Source movement. They make good things, and they make bad things. It's the consumers responsibility to not be a brand-worshipping ****tard and buy something just because they like the name of it's provider. View the market as competing products, not companies. Take the side of a good product, not what you believe to be a good company, because no company gives two shits about you. They just care about how they can convince you to give them as much money as possible.
I agree. Which is why I like Macs and associated hardware and software so much. Because it's superior.

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I guess the Microsoft angel is watching over me, because I don't have any problems with Windows either. I should go buy a lottery ticket, eh?

Science forbid that there might, say, be a vocal minority on the internet.
I've been working with Windows for a long time, and I rely more on my personal observations than what people on the internet say. I've worked at dozens of different client sites, and the vast majority of them hate Windows because it's unreliable and it's buggy. So yes, based on my experience, you actually are in the minority.

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Look at the concept, not the brand. If Microsoft develops this, competitors will develop their own, so it's not worth dismissing just because Microsoft developed it. As a concept, this could turn out very well. Think of the applications for it: You could apply this not only to coffee tables but desks and wall panels. I'd love to have a desk I could draw on, see what I was drawing and have that on my monitor as well. Sure would beat shitty drawing tablets.
We'll see.

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I bet if Apple came up with the idea, though, you'd think it was the second coming, amirite?
It would likely be executed better than Microsoft's version.
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Old October 11, 2007, 3:28 AM
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It would likely be executed better than Microsoft's version.
Unlikely. It would just have white plastic and wouldn't run games .

(See, we can both make stupid generalizations!)
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Old October 11, 2007, 3:34 AM
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Unlikely. It would just have white plastic and wouldn't run games .
I wish you'd stop with the "plastic" remarks. They're just annoying, and mostly untrue. Only one computer Apple makes anymore still uses plastic (the basic MacBook) and rumor has it they'll be upgraded in the next couple of months.

And Macs run games fine, thx.
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I wish you'd stop with the "plastic" remarks. They're just annoying, and mostly untrue. Only one computer Apple makes anymore still uses plastic (the basic MacBook) and rumor has it they'll be upgraded in the next couple of months.
Sorry. You're paying stupidly inflated prices for aluminium now.

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And Macs run games fine, thx.
Well, sure, I'll give you that. All three of them.
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Old October 11, 2007, 4:22 AM
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Sorry. You're paying stupidly inflated prices for aluminium now.
Damn straight.

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Well, sure, I'll give you that.
Finally.
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You know, according to the adverts being shown in the UK, the iMac isn't actually a computer. It's just an object. It doesn't do anything, it has no features, it just sits there, looking out of place on your old fashioned desks, against your shagpile carpet and painted walls. Even your leather desk chair looks out of place. If you're lucky, it might even spin around, but as you can't plug it into anything, you can't give it any energy to do this.

You'd need to your whole country just so that my iMac looks right.
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