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Danny Stewart May 9, 2007 2:55 PM

Make the forums invite only?
 
We recently had a rather severe breach of security on the site, where I said some things I shouldn't have about a certain someone, and one of the newer members on the site who had made only one post saw what I said and decided that the right thing to do was to report me to that certain individual rather than come to me and perhaps recommend that they be taken down (which I would have gladly done).

The point is, this member should never have been allowed on the site. We get a lot of members on here who just come in and do nothing, or make a post then disappear, and we know nothing about these people. I'm a bit paranoid after this incident, and so, to increase security on the site and make the community a more knowing and trusting place, Ross has suggested to me that we might want to make the community so that people can join by invite only, having someone already on the site vouch for them and allow them in. It would make this site more exclusive and friendly, cut down on unwanted traffic, and keep the site safe from prying eyes.

I personally don't think this is a bad idea, but I wanted to gauge the existing members' reaction to such a plan. Do you think it's a good idea to restrict site access to existing members and people that existing members are allowed to invite?

Ross Hendrie May 9, 2007 2:58 PM

Although it's a bit drastic, judging by the breach of security you described to me on GoogleTalk, I believe it would be wise.

Dalek104 May 9, 2007 2:59 PM

I think it'd be better. Less mess to clean up and a fine community. :)

Danny Stewart May 9, 2007 3:02 PM

I agree. As I said in my original post, we can speak more freely on here if we know everyone who's here. It'll make the forums a friendly and more tightly-knit community.

robertbeare May 9, 2007 3:02 PM

I think this would save time on having to meet and greet many new members and that we never see again , i think yes the site should be made invite only !:D

Ronnie Rowlands May 9, 2007 3:04 PM

I'm not gonna vote. Because although what you said was right, it would only be existing members friends who would join from now on. If this had been the case a year ago, we wouldn't have such members as myself, Tom, RV, Dalek, Ben, or anyone else for that matter.

Danny Stewart May 9, 2007 3:14 PM

True, but when in the last six months have we gotten a new member who actually contributed something truly unique to the community, and was a pleasure to have around?

Ronnie Rowlands May 9, 2007 3:28 PM

Well, none in the last six months. And I believe I was the only permanent new member of 2005. But last year, we got Tom, Dalek, RV, Ben, Jez, Sontaran of Brunei, Stutomo and Doodah, and while a couple don't post often, they do still contribute a lot when they do. Maybe this year we'll get a few other new permanent members. We have to keep registration open. Otherwise, what happens when some of us leave?

Superkid11 May 9, 2007 4:04 PM

I totally understand that kind of paranoia and I approve, but remember... I knew absolutely none of you when I first joined and I turned out to be a pretty good guy. ;) (At least I hope I did...)

I like this place, I guess it just wouldn't be the same if it was really highly populated and talkative... not to mention it'd drive Danny's server up the wall. At least it gets posts often. My forum's totally dead. :P (I won't bother saying more about it. Tis just a cheap invisionfree forum.)

I happen to be a co-admin of yet another tight-nit community but it's not as lighthearted as Danny Stewart... you'd get that impression but there are seriously bad things going on underneath it all... a very mistrustful co-admin that happens to be the root admin's girlfriend that tends to copy people and get away with it and makes a big deal out of it when her deeds are mentioned. Oh and to tie it all off there's a guy there that's a bit like RV. It's a time bomb of a forum... I weaseled myself into adminship there to try to keep things peaceful. I like Dannystewart.com 'cause it doesn't have these weird issues.

MI7 May 9, 2007 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowlands (Post 35455)
Well, none in the last six months. And I believe I was the only permanent new member of 2005. But last year, we got Tom, Dalek, RV, Ben, Jez, Sontaran of Brunei, Stutomo and Doodah, and while a couple don't post often, they do still contribute a lot when they do. Maybe this year we'll get a few other new permanent members. We have to keep registration open. Otherwise, what happens when some of us leave?

That is a good point.

Maybe we should have one forum where guests can post in and introduce themselves, and if they seem nice and active, they can be allowed to create an account? It's a flawed idea at the moment but it could work in practice.

Danny Stewart May 9, 2007 5:52 PM

We already have such a forum. max_headroom seemed nice and active from his first post.

Recurring Villain May 10, 2007 1:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 35451)
True, but when in the last six months have we gotten a new member who actually contributed something truly unique to the community, and was a pleasure to have around?

We have the eloquent and intelligent Daryl, Robert, Sam Davies and Co.! How could you ever forget about them, Danny? Shame on you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl Jones (Post 35453)
The new users who aren't active, ban them.

Ban this guy and his friends, too.

Seriously. Just do it.

Ben Dawson May 10, 2007 5:35 AM

It's a tough concept, true, it would make it safer around here, but it would restrict possible active members...but, times change, we can't sit back and hope that the way things once were are gonna come round again, the Tetryon days are over (although I wasn't a part of it, I'm pretty sure it was a damn good time).
Think of it this way, if Doctor Who was still like the classic series now, would it have lasted this long? I don't think so, I think kids would have thought of it as a joke and just moved on, but no, it changed, adapted for a new generation, and that is what's needed here if we are to survive peacefully.

Ross Hendrie May 10, 2007 5:49 AM

Ronnie's point is the only reservation I had about suggesting such an idea. I dunno really, it is kinda valid.

Sam Davies May 10, 2007 7:43 AM

This is a fantastic idea Danny. Great for keeping out all the one-dayers. <--another made up word.

Jez May 10, 2007 9:46 AM

I'm against this because closed communities have the tendency to die.

Danny Stewart May 10, 2007 10:30 AM

If not this, then something else needs to be done. I'm open to suggestions.

Ronnie Rowlands May 10, 2007 10:33 AM

Grit your teeth and bare it is all I can reccomend.

Danny Stewart May 10, 2007 10:35 AM

Daryl -- I responded to Tom's suggestion and reminded everyone that we already had such a forum, and it really didn't work as it is now.

Danny Stewart May 10, 2007 11:15 AM

No, it's okay, I'm just saying it doesn't seem to be working at the moment. Any ideas on how we could try and improve the system we have now?

Jammy Jason May 10, 2007 1:33 PM

First of all, how easy is the thread you say is made for new members to get comfortable, maybe a shoutbox/chatbox on the main page should be introduced, fast, easy aquatences.

Danny Stewart May 10, 2007 2:31 PM

It's an entire forum. Go to the main page and see the Introductions Forum. The shoutbox idea may work. I'll see what I can find.

Jammy Jason May 10, 2007 3:06 PM

Yeah, numerous non-active members is a problem on almost every forum, but some have been reduced by a shoutbox of sort because of its fast introductions and other advantages.

Recurring Villain May 11, 2007 2:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 35505)
If not this, then something else needs to be done. I'm open to suggestions.

Give me back my banning ability. :cool:

You know it's the only way.

Hamster May 11, 2007 3:31 AM

I personally think this is a good idea. I've no idea if it's true that no new members in the past six months have contributed anything of value, as I fall into that category myself, but if that is indeed the case then perhaps invite-only is the way to go, as people would be brought in on the basis of what they can contribute to the forum. The other big advantage to this is that it could help to get rid of the problem of elitism that often happens of forums, and by extension maybe even the problem of one-post newbies. If a new member knows at least one existing member, it is perhaps less likely that they will be ignored by the community, get bored and leave again shortly afterwards. Maybe it could also get rid of some of the bitching that seems to happen every time a new person arrives, making the forum a much better place for those that actually want to enjoy it

Recurring Villain May 11, 2007 3:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamster (Post 35561)
I personally think this is a good idea. I've no idea if it's true that no new members in the past six months have contributed anything of value, as I fall into that category myself, but if that is indeed the case then perhaps invite-only is the way to go, as people would be brought in on the basis of what they can contribute to the forum. The other big advantage to this is that it could help to get rid of the problem of elitism that often happens of forums, and by extension maybe even the problem of one-post newbies. If a new member knows at least one existing member, it is perhaps less likely that they will be ignored by the community, get bored and leave again shortly afterwards. Maybe it could also get rid of some of the bitching that seems to happen every time a new person arrives, making the forum a much better place for those that actually want to enjoy it


GIANT. BLOCK. OF. TEXT.

Enter key ftw.

Hamster May 11, 2007 6:26 AM

Run along, little boy

Ronnie Rowlands May 11, 2007 6:27 AM

Why've you changed your last post? The one that said "sorry, can't you read more than 2 lines?"

Hamster May 11, 2007 6:31 AM

I decided that was maybe like being a bit childish and confrontational, so I went for indifference instead. Didn't want to come off as too hypocritical, though I admit the new one isn't much better!

Danny Stewart May 11, 2007 1:20 PM

Relax, Hamster. You'll grow accustomed to RV's ways in time. :P

Danny Stewart May 11, 2007 4:18 PM

This is still a possibility, but I don't know any more at the moment. I haven't decided anything more.

Recurring Villain May 11, 2007 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamster (Post 35580)
Run along, little boy

Hint:

http://www.andy-graham.com/images/enter.jpg

;)

Hamster May 11, 2007 8:08 PM

Wow, that would really hurt if I gave any sort of a toss what you think


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