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Danny Stewart June 17, 2007 8:34 PM

Some updates
 
I have just gone through and done a total revamp of the forum permissions here on the site. It's very important for people to go around and check the forums that you usually visit and post in and make sure you can still do what you usually do. If anyone encounters any problems, please let me know right away so I can fix it quickly. Additionally, there are a couple of new forums around.

The first new forum is called Private Discussion. I have had some concern expressed to me recently about how certain posts about personal problems and other private matters are automatically readable to every registered user, even ones who have just registered and not even posted (complete strangers and the like). This is certainly a valid concern, and to respect the privacy of my members, I have created this new forum for private discussion. From now on, the Private Discussion forum will be a place for only the known and trusted members of the site to speak freely about potentially sensitive topics and issues that you might not just want anyone reading about. To get access to this forum, send me a PM and I'll make the necessary arrangements. In all likelihood, there won't be a whole lot that gets posted in there, but still and all, it's best for those of you concerned about privacy issues to have that option. Please feel free to contact me privately if you have any questions.

The second new forum is called The Recurring Forum. Essentially, it is a place where RV can be as RV-ish as he wants with no imposed consequences for doing something that might be construed as out of line. In exchange for that, he will have to restrain himself on the rest of the site and not post provocative stuff against Ross or anyone who might get offended. And stuff that is out of line can be moved to the Recurring Forum for continued discussion there. Hopefully this is an acceptable solution for everyone.

Hope you approve of the changes!

Superkid11 June 17, 2007 11:03 PM

Sounds like a good idea. As of yet my parents haven't expressed any interest in this site(I mentioned it once in a conversation with my mom about my flash movies, that's why I brought that up) so I don't think I have to worry about any mentions of my girlfriend being moved to private.
But in that respect I think an even better course of action would be to just block off non-members from even viewing the forums, along with not joining... unless you've done that already.

As for the RV section...
I will be there often. ;)
Can other people act RVish there too?

Danny Stewart June 17, 2007 11:07 PM

Of course. All ranges of RV behavior are welcome there. :D

As for non-members, the way it's currently setup is like this: unregistered users and people who are not logged in can see the forums and the titles of the threads inside those forums, but they cannot read any of the posts contained within the threads. Do you think that's good enough, or would you prefer even tighter restrictions?

Superkid11 June 18, 2007 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37192)
Of course. All ranges of RV behavior are welcome there. :D

As for non-members, the way it's currently setup is like this: unregistered users and people who are not logged in can see the forums and the titles of the threads inside those forums, but they cannot read any of the posts contained within the threads. Do you think that's good enough, or would you prefer even tighter restrictions?

Oh, no that's perfect. ;) I was just curious.

Recurring Villain June 18, 2007 1:16 AM

I'm not sure having my own forum is going to work. A big part of being 'RV-ish' is making fun of people/things. Half the joke is people's reaction :D.

There are a few criteria having my own personal forum doesn't fulfill:

a. There's really only me in there. I can only make fun of myself so much.

b. Very few people can see it and/or would know about it (in the case of new members). The section should at least be public; if someone's stupid enough to read something in there, it isn't anyone's fault except their own. Further, if they're stupid enough to reply to something I wrote, then it just moves to a whole new level of funny.

c. Only little old ladies and people with a similar intellectual capacity get offended over the things as tame as my remarks.

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 1:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37194)
I'm not sure having my own forum is going to work. A big part of being 'RV-ish' is making fun of people/things. Half the joke is people's reaction :D.

Ideally a sizable portion of the members here will want to hang out with you in there. :P

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37194)
a. There's really only me in there. I can only make fun of myself so much.

As I said above, I think you're liked more than you're disliked on here, so I foresee a decent chunk of the userbase on here wanting to participate in fun-filled conversations with their friendly neighborhood Recurring Villain.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37194)
b. Very few people can see it and/or would know about it (in the case of new members). The section should at least be public; if someone's stupid enough to read something in there, it isn't anyone's fault except their own. Further, if they're stupid enough to reply to something I wrote, then it just moves to a whole new level of funny.

Okay, I'll give you this one. I'll make the Recurring Forum public.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37194)
c. Only little old ladies and people with a similar intellectual capacity get offended over the things as tame as my remarks.

Yeah, well, that's the world we live in. Not much I can do to fix that one.

Recurring Villain June 18, 2007 1:40 AM

Ah well, at least it's public now. We'll see how this goes. If the forum-wide humor level goes down, we'll need to rethink this matter.

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 1:42 AM

I concur. In general, the idea is that you should exercise a modicum of restraint outside of your forum, but let loose as if the rules don't apply to you within your forum. Sound fair?

Recurring Villain June 18, 2007 1:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37199)
I concur. In general, the idea is that you should exercise a modicum of restraint outside of your forum, but let loose as if the rules don't apply to you within your forum. Sound fair?

I'll see what I can do.

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 1:45 AM

Excellent. I look forward to posting alongside your Recurringness in the new Recurring Forum then. :D

Dalek104 June 18, 2007 1:54 AM

Updates look good. ;)

Chris Britton June 18, 2007 5:21 AM

Danny's imagination and ideas for improvements know no bounds and never cease to amaze, will we see a visual representation before long? ;) if you remember that old topic :P

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 10:40 AM

Not for the moment, but you never know what the future holds. :P

Ross Hendrie June 18, 2007 11:03 AM

Some of the topics which have been moved to the RV forum already contains posts from me which RV has taken to vandalising. I would like this stopped immediately.

Dalek104 June 18, 2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37186)
The second new forum is called The Recurring Forum. Essentially, it is a place where RV can be as RV-ish as he wants with no imposed consequences for doing something that might be construed as out of line.

..........

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 11:45 AM

Exactly -- thank you, James. Apparently Ross did not read the description of the forum.

RV can do whatever he wants in there with no regard for the rules. The whole point is to separate him from the rest of the forum. If you're going to be offended by what he says, stay out of his forum. That's the idea -- I would have thought that was pretty obvious.

Who? June 18, 2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37347)
RV can do whatever he wants in there with no regard for the rules

Sexism? Ageism? Racism? Being stereotypical? Being predujist ? discrimanting?

I am bit unsure.:confused:

MI7 June 18, 2007 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Who? (Post 37358)
Sexism? Ageism? Racism? Being stereotypical? Being predujist ? discrimanting?

Yeah.
Tencharacters

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Who? (Post 37358)
Sexism? Ageism? Racism? Being stereotypical? Being predujist ? discrimanting?

I am bit unsure.:confused:

You don't like it, stay out of his forum. I reintroduced the selective forum filter for exactly this reason. Go to User CP, go to Edit Options, and select the Recurring Forum out of the forum list. Out of sight, out of mind. If you have a problem, deal with it.

Who? June 18, 2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MI7 (Post 37360)
Yeah.

Nice place then.

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37363)
You don't like it, stay out of his forum. I reintroduced the selective forum filter for exactly this reason. Go to User CP, go to Edit Options, and select the Recurring Forum out of the forum list. Out of sight, out of mind. If you have a problem, deal with it.

I didn't say i don't like it. But you're right, I am not the biggest fan of :sexism, ageism, racism, being stereotypical ,being predujist and discrimanting. I was just checking whether those things where going to happen in that forum and to see if it was acceptable. Thanks for your advice on the forum filter thing, now i know whats happening, I will make my descion.

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 12:23 PM

Have you read my post?

Ross Hendrie June 18, 2007 12:27 PM

I did read it. What I am trying to say is that I will no longer be visiting the RV forum nevermind posting in it, but topics which were not previously in that forum have been moved there, and some contain posts from me. It's all well and good saying "dont post if you dont want to be offended" but Ive not been given an option with the moving of the topics.

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 12:29 PM

That's the point of the forum, Ross. All OTT RV content to be kept in one simple location. I'm sorry you're not comfortable with the moving of the threads. Would you feel more inclined to post in there if RV weren't a moderator of it? :P

Ross Hendrie June 18, 2007 12:30 PM

Yes I would.

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 12:38 PM

Fair enough. I haven't exactly been thrilled with how he's used his moderator privileges thus far anyway, and they're not necessary for the purposes of the forum.

Chris Britton June 18, 2007 1:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37327)
Not for the moment, but you never know what the future holds. :P

all the more reason we all should stay around :)

I am happy about the idea of an RV forum especially, as that does ensure less misunderstanding and conflict in the future, and he can be himself without complaints. :) does ensure the forums remain their open minded way :)

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 1:03 PM

Thanks for your support, Chris.

Chris Britton June 18, 2007 1:05 PM

no problem dude, Now I can't exactly complain myself ;) :P

Jez June 18, 2007 4:07 PM

Danny, if I use this forum filter thing, I won't have to read anything at all! Thank you! :D ;)

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 4:16 PM

Some forums, like the news forum, are not excludable. :P

Jez June 18, 2007 4:43 PM

You already know I don't read those. ;)

Chris Britton June 18, 2007 5:14 PM

You ought to read the news ;) Danny makes a great news anchor :)

Danny Stewart June 18, 2007 8:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jez (Post 37408)
You already know I don't read those. ;)

Umm... if you don't read posts in the news forum, then how does that post even exist, genius? :P

Recurring Villain June 19, 2007 2:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37369)
Fair enough. I haven't exactly been thrilled with how he's used his moderator privileges thus far anyway, and they're not necessary for the purposes of the forum.

a. Weren't the rules not supposed to apply in my forum?

b. I would have thought it was obvious my usage of them was a joke.

c. **** Ross.

Danny Stewart June 19, 2007 3:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37444)
a. Weren't the rules not supposed to apply in my forum?

The rules may not apply, but it's supposed to be a forum for actual talk, not just messing around and talking to yourself. What you posted in there, while amusing for a while, was not what I gave you the forum for. If you don't like it, I can take the forum away again and we can just start cracking down on the rules like normal.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37444)
b. I would have thought it was obvious my usage of them was a joke.

Well, it wasn't very funny. At least it's not now.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37444)
c. **** Ross.

Watch it. That was just totally unnecessary. You're not above the law, especially not out here.

Chris Britton June 19, 2007 5:31 AM

RV< even abusing Moderator privilages, even if it is just a joke and even on your own forum, it does not set a good example. You are funny, but thats no excuse to abuse it. Danny gave you a nice little gift, that forum of yours, so don't treat it like something you can just throw away, and sweating at other members hardly qualifies for any support.

Ronnie Rowlands June 19, 2007 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 37451)
sweating at other members

PPFFFFFFFFFFF...(sorry)

Recurring Villain June 20, 2007 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37446)
The rules may not apply, but it's supposed to be a forum for actual talk, not just messing around and talking to yourself.

As much as I love to talk to myself, it gets tiresome and can only go so far. I had no intention of going on like that forever.

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Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37446)
Well, it wasn't very funny. At least it's not now.

I didn't see anyone complaining.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart (Post 37446)
You're not above the law, especially not out here.

Sure I am.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 37451)
RV< even abusing Moderator privilages, even if it is just a joke and even on your own forum, it does not set a good example.

For who? It's not like there's a bunch of 6-year-old moderators-in-training looking up to Uncle RV for guidance.

Last time you guys said I was abusing my powers, which was when I banned Daryl and Co., I got my powers taken away. When Danny bans them, everyone's like "Hey, good idea! I don't know why nobody thought of that before!"

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Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 37451)
Danny gave you a nice little gift, that forum of yours, so don't treat it like something you can just throw away

It was hardly a gift. Take note that one of it's requirements was that I was to be 'nice' outside of this single forum. Basically, Danny wanted to appease you guys without banning me and relegate me to a single forum.

If I'm going to get my own forum where the rules don't apply, then I'm not going to follow the rules! Simple! I'm going to do whatever I like. Besides having to be nice to people outside the forum, as far as I knew there were no conditions for my actions within it. Nobody said I couldn't actually use my moderator powers or post craploads of conversations with myself.

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Originally Posted by Chris Britton (Post 37451)
...and sweating at other members hardly qualifies for any support.

I'll sweat at whoever I like, thanks.

Danny Stewart June 20, 2007 2:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37512)
As much as I love to talk to myself, it gets tiresome and can only go so far. I had no intention of going on like that forever.

Indeed. And to be honest, while it did transition from funny to annoying fairly quickly for me, that wasn't what prompted me to take away your mod powers. It was the vandalizing of posts from other people that did it. I might give you back your mod powers without the ability to edit posts, but we'll have to wait and see on that.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37512)
I didn't see anyone complaining.

I did. And I agreed with them.

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Originally Posted by Recurring Villain (Post 37512)
Sure I am.

No, you're not, and with an attitude like that, I'm not exactly feeling the incentive to give you your mod powers back.

Recurring Villain June 20, 2007 2:20 AM

Well, sure. If you want to make the forum boring, good for you. I don't want to hang around on a boring forum.


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