Star Trek XI - Page 8

Ross Hendrie · #**141** November 23, 2008, 5:50 PM

Apparently not now.

You did bring it up, however.

Ben Dawson · #**142** November 27, 2008, 10:29 AM

OWNED is all I have to say.

Superkid11 · #**143** November 27, 2008, 10:32 AM

Racial pride never made sense to me. What's wrong as long as he gets the accent right?

Chris Britton · #**144** November 27, 2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Superkid11

Racial pride never made sense to me. What's wrong as long as he gets the accent right?

Thats what i think, and hes got a pretty good grasp of it as well. John Cho is Korean but no-ones complaining about him playing a Japanese character

Ross Hendrie · #**145** November 27, 2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Britton

Thats what i think, and hes got a pretty good grasp of it as well. John Cho is Korean but no-ones complaining about him playing a Japanese character

That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

Superkid11 · #**146** November 27, 2008, 1:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

China and Japan really aren't all that fond of each other...

Chris Britton · #**147** November 27, 2008, 2:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

Actually I think I do. Sulu was meant to represent all Eastern Asians on the Enterprise, Japanese, Chinese and Koreans for example. I felt that Scotty represented everyone British on the Enterprise, so I am quite fine with Simon Pegg playing Scotty, he is representing me and you and specific nationality shouldn't matter.

Ben Dawson · #**148** November 27, 2008, 3:21 PM

Speaking of Sulu.........I'M A CELEBRITY, GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!
Yeah, even though I've never really watched Star Trek, I think I'll still give this movie a go.

Ross Hendrie · #**149** November 27, 2008, 4:36 PM

Originally Posted by Superkid11

China and Japan really aren't all that fond of each other...

That's the point. Scotland and England aren't fond of each other either.

Superkid11 · #**150** November 27, 2008, 4:38 PM

That strikes me as odd. After all, they're on the same landmass...

...then again so are northern and southern Ireland...

Recurring Villain · #**151** November 27, 2008, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

That's not the same, if it had been a Chinese actor playing a Japanese character or vice-versa it might be similar. But you clearly just don't understand.

There's a difference between not understanding and not being blinded by some delusional sense of national pride. We understand it alright, we just don't follow it.

We're all the same species. A country is just lines in dirt. Considering we have the ability to communicate instantly across the planet and travel anywhere on it in less than 20 hours, racial or nationalistic pride today is really nothing more than a useless relic of the past. We're one global community now. Learn to deal with it.

Originally Posted by Chris Britton

Actually I think I do. Sulu was meant to represent all Eastern Asians on the Enterprise, Japanese, Chinese and Koreans for example.

If he was supposed to represent Japan, they wouldn't have called him 'Sulu'... There is no 'L' sound in Japanese.

Danny Stewart · #**152** November 27, 2008, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Recurring Villain

There's a difference between not understanding and not being blinded by some delusional sense of national pride. We understand it alright, we just don't follow it.

We're all the same species. A country is just lines in dirt. Considering we have the ability to communicate instantly across the planet and travel anywhere on it in less than 20 hours, racial or nationalistic pride today is really nothing more than a useless relic of the past. We're one global community now. Learn to deal with it.

If he was supposed to represent Japan, they wouldn't have called him 'Sulu'... There is no 'L' sound in Japanese.

Bam. RV pwns again. I'm just going to start quoting his posts without adding any noteworthy response of my own to reflect my concurrence with his statements.

Ross Hendrie · #**153** November 28, 2008, 1:34 PM

Originally Posted by Recurring Villain

We're one global community now. Learn to deal with it.

People are nice to each other in communities.

Chris Britton · #**154** November 28, 2008, 1:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

People are nice to each other in communities.

I hate to sound annoyed Ross but in that respects Simon Pegg is part of the British community and your not being very nice to him even though he will never read this, matter of principle. You can hardly call RV out on what is an excellent point.

Ross Hendrie · #**155** November 28, 2008, 3:47 PM

I am pointing out how if RV believes the whole world is a community, then why isn't he nice to everyone? Even James, no matter how much of a n00b he is.

Anyway, this is being blown completely out of proportion. I am not out to assassinate Simon Pegg just because he has been cast as Scotty... It's more a case of mild irritation than intense controversy.

Danny Stewart · #**156** November 28, 2008, 4:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

People are nice to each other in communities.

I call bullshit. Show me where niceness or kindness enters into the definition of "community."

1. a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
2. a locality inhabited by such a group.
3. a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists (usually prec. by the): the business community; the community of scholars.
4. a group of associated nations sharing common interests or a common heritage: the community of Western Europe.
5. Ecclesiastical. a group of men or women leading a common life according to a rule.
6. Ecology. an assemblage of interacting populations occupying a given area.
7. joint possession, enjoyment, liability, etc.: community of property.
8. similar character; agreement; identity: community of interests.
9. the community, the public; society: the needs of the community.

Superkid11 · #**157** November 28, 2008, 4:07 PM

Everyone gets along only in a perfect community. The entire world, as a community, is incredibly fucked up.(well, fucked up in many other ways too) But that's still what it is.

EDIT: LOL DISREGARD THAT. Danny's got the real definition.

Chris Britton · #**158** November 28, 2008, 4:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danny Stewart

I call bullshit. Show me where niceness or kindness enters into the definition of "community."

1. a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
2. a locality inhabited by such a group.
3. a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists (usually prec. by the): the business community; the community of scholars.
4. a group of associated nations sharing common interests or a common heritage: the community of Western Europe.
5. Ecclesiastical. a group of men or women leading a common life according to a rule.
6. Ecology. an assemblage of interacting populations occupying a given area.
7. joint possession, enjoyment, liability, etc.: community of property.
8. similar character; agreement; identity: community of interests.
9. the community, the public; society: the needs of the community.

Quoted for truth

Ronnie Rowlands · #**159** November 28, 2008, 6:27 PM

And so it begins. Again.

Recurring Villain · #**160** November 28, 2008, 7:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Hendrie

People are nice to each other in communities.

Inside a prison, the inmates are the 'prisoner community'. So, using your logic, everyone inside a prison must do knitting all day in between tea and slumber parties.

OH WAIT NO THEY DONT THEY RAPE EACH OTHER IN THE SHOWER.

Seriously, what kind of fucked up dictionary do you use?